<div dir="ltr">that's why I asked about rules for petition candidates<div><br></div><div>v</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 3:12 PM, Eric Burger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eburger@standardstrack.com" target="_blank">eburger@standardstrack.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">There is an even better method of conveying your belief the nominating committee did not do a good job. One is always able to put forward additional nominees. It only takes seven endorsements to have that nominee placed on the ballot. This provision has been available for years and nominees have been placed on the ballot in the past.<br>
<div><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div><br></div><div>Waiting until the election is over to say the candidate pool was not to one’s liking is not effective. Finding a qualified candidate the nominating committee missed, getting them to understand the commitment, getting them to agree to run, and getting 7% of the chapters to endorse the candidate is much better. Not only does it show where the nominations committee could do better, you also end up with a candidate to your liking.</div>
<div><div class="h5"><div><br><div><div>On Apr 27, 2014, at 10:58 AM, Mark Urban <<a href="mailto:docurban@gmail.com" target="_blank">docurban@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">I concur with Vint. A "none of the above" choice is crucial as an option to convey to the nominating committee that the choices provided are not the direction desired.<div>
<br></div><div>Mark D. Urban</div>
<div>Vice-Chair, Disabilities and Special Needs Chapter</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 27, 2014 at 6:53 AM, jemal <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jemal@mattel.mr" target="_blank">jemal@mattel.mr</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Hi All,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I Think , the Abstention is a good part of democratic election
that give anybody to vote as he want and do his choice without any pressure
from anybody .<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal">
<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">I agree this blank vote that Vince as said.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Jemal Brahim<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Mauritanian chapter<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De :</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Chapter-delegates
[mailto:<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>] <b>De la part de</b> Vint
Cerf<br>
<b>Envoyé :</b> jeudi 24 avril 2014 15:31<br>
<b>À :</b> Bob Hinden<br>
<b>Cc :</b> ISOC Chapter Delegates; Peter Koch<br>
<b>Objet :</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] Board Election<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">Abstention is a valid choice and there should be no
prejudicial character to that. It may actually be useful to have a ballot that
permits a chapter to submit a vote that effectively votes for no candidates (my
interpretation of a "blank" ballot). Do others on the list believe
that any significant fraction of non-voting chapters would submit a ballot if
this option were available (versus simply not responding)?<u></u><u></u></p>
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<div><p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Apr 24, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Bob Hinden <<a href="mailto:bob.hinden@gmail.com" target="_blank">bob.hinden@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Peter,<br>
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I hope you didn't interpret my email asking Chapters to vote as interfering
with the election. My thinking is that it's important for as many
chapters as possible to vote in the Board election. Personally, I find it
troubling that only half of the chapters (and similar turnout for org members)
choose to vote. Hopefully, the turnout will be higher this year.<br>
<span style="color:#888888"><br>
<span>Bob</span></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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On Apr 23, 2014, at 11:56 PM, Peter Koch <<a href="mailto:pk@ISOC.DE" target="_blank">pk@ISOC.DE</a>>
wrote:<br>
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> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 11:35:27PM -0500, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:<br>
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>> Vint's question does beg an answer from you. You may decide not to<br>
>> interfere with the ongoing election process and answer him and Desiree
in<br>
>> private, then make your answer public when the polling closes. I don't<br>
>> think you have a lot more choice.<br>
><br>
> on my calendar it's the 24th today. That is 23 days past the first and one
day left<br>
> into the voting deadline. To the latter: I, for one, take the
liberty to exploit the<br>
> full extent of the deadline the election committee came up with. I
am also<br>
> extremely sensitive to "public pressure", especially when it
comes to elections.<br>
> That links to the former: It truly puzzles me to see a request to a
chapter<br>
> to justify their vote (to other chapters), even if that is an abstention.<br>
> There are several reasons to abstain and sometimes even a qualified
abstention<br>
> might have more value than a ballot cast under "pressure".
I am pretty sure that several<br>
> people on this list who are, sadly, much more qualified from personal
experience<br>
> than myself, would be able to share some depressing insight. Time to get a
globe.<br>
><br>
> -Peter<br>
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