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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Followup from November post</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">The rebuttal from the state in said
trial of citizens coalition against the Minister of Interior Affairs
led to a stormy parliamentary debate last month, when it came to
light that the sharing of data was actually in the opposite
direction: it was the Dutch secret service AIVD that had shared 1.8
million call records it collected from satellite traffic (Afghanistan
a.o.) with the NSA. This misinformation of parliament was almost the
end of the political life of Minister Plasterk, and prompted the
government to postpone granting more snooping permissions to our
secret services .
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">What happens next:
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">The next stage of the court case will
be a so called comparition of parties, where both parties have the
opportunity to defend their case in a live hearing. Expected
somewhere in May – August of this year.
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">And we have been invited to intervene
in the case of Big Brother Watch versus the United Kingdom, serving
before the European Court of Human Rights, pls see <font face="Traditional Arabic, serif"><font size="3"><a href="https://www.privacynotprism.org.uk/news/2013/10/03/legal-challenge-to-uk-internet-surveillance/" target="_parent"><u><font color="#0066cc">Privacy
Not Prism</font></u></a> . </font></font><font face="Traditional Arabic, serif"><font size="3">This
case is very similar to ours, and could mean a swift European opinion
on the matter.</font></font><font face="Traditional Arabic, serif"><font size="3">
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</p><p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">What can you do to help?</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Our case is about foreign intelligence
agencies collecting information on Dutch citizens and organizations
and sharing that information with their Dutch counterparts. Do you
know of such cases, where foreign services have collected local
information and then shared it with local secret services?</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Thanks for your help,</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">All the best,</p>
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<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">Alex Blom</p>
<p style="margin-bottom: 0in;">ISOC NL</p>
</div><div data-signatureblock="true"><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div style="padding-top: 5px; border-top-color: rgb(229, 229, 229); border-top-width: 1px; border-top-style: solid;"><div><font face=" 'Calibri', 'Segoe UI', 'Meiryo', 'Microsoft YaHei UI', 'Microsoft JhengHei UI', 'Malgun Gothic', 'sans-serif'" style='line-height: 15pt; letter-spacing: 0.02em; font-family: "Calibri", "Segoe UI", "Meiryo", "Microsoft YaHei UI", "Microsoft JhengHei UI", "Malgun Gothic", "sans-serif"; font-size: 12pt;'><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:alexander.blom@budgetphone.nl" target="_parent">Alexander Blom</a><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 7, 2013 10:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_parent">Chapter Delegates</a></font></div></div><div><br></div><div dir="">
<font face="Arial">All,<br>
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Yesterday, the Dutch ISOC chapter joined a coalition of citizens,
criminal lawyers and journalists in order to sue the Dutch
minister of the Interior. Subject are the halfhearted confessions
that the Dutch secret service (the AIVD) may be using NSA-data to
illegally snoop on Dutch citizens. While the NSA data are illegal,
the governement gives the impression that it considers the NSA to
be a handy way to get around Dutch privacy laws. At ISOC NL, we
felt that open internet means more than just the unobstructed
routing of IP packets, and that an internet where all exchange of
data is under surveillance 24/7 cannot be called open.<br>
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Please see <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://cnnmon.ie/1fmUiyN" target="_parent">http://cnnmon.ie/1fmUiyN</a> for more.<br>
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There have been contributions from other chapters re this subject,
let us continue sharing.<br>
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All the best,<br>
<br>
Alex Blom<br>
ISOC NL<br>
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