<div dir="ltr">Carlos,<div><br></div><div>thanks for the complementary perspective. Quite a complex entanglement with local politics - surely somethng to keep in mind!</div><div><br></div><div>Alejandro Pisanty</div></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Carlos A. Afonso <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ca@cafonso.ca" target="_blank">ca@cafonso.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Just read the NYT article, thanks for the tip. Not a single line which<br>
would indicate or speculate that Glenn is "manipulating Brazil". If<br>
there were, it would be silly, of course.<br>
<br>
Good article. My view on asylum for Snowden in BR is that we are in the<br>
midst of a nasty political campaign for the 2014 presidential elections,<br>
and all evidence (including the opposition polls' and their own writers'<br>
articles) points to Rousseff's re-election. So there is a process to<br>
seek alternative (to put it eufemistically) means to undermine the<br>
current government.<br>
<br>
Lots of money (coming from incredible, billion-dollar levels of<br>
corruption coming from the right-wing opposition state governments of<br>
São Paulo and Minas Gerais, involving usual suspects such as Alstom,<br>
Siemens & co.) have been poured into the main media and in the judicial<br>
system, including the Supreme Court, to discredit the government. There<br>
is a risk that this same court might rule for Snowden's extradiction, as<br>
the interests of the right-wing opposition which currently controls the<br>
court and the main media are pretty much pro-USA.<br>
<br>
So, I am worried about Snowden's safety if Rousseff grants him asylum to<br>
come to BR. Hope he gets an extension from Putin, and after October it<br>
will probably be safer to come to Brazil.<br>
<br>
--c.a.<br>
<br>
On 01/09/2014 03:28 AM, Alejandro Pisanty wrote:<br>
> Hi, fellow ISOC Chapter Delegates,<br>
><br>
> in the last few weeks most of the discussion on Internet Governance<br>
> seems to be taking place in other spaces, mostly the 1net list and<br>
> others. We may find it useful for ISOC to stay abreast of those but also<br>
> to search, as we frequently do, for insights and commonality of views<br>
> among the chapter delegates.<br>
><br>
> So... two things today, a comment about Brazil internally from the New<br>
> York Times, and a hefty, massive, complex resolution presented at the<br>
> European Parliament (hopefully Frederick Donck and others can help us<br>
> sort it out in terms of viability and impact), to start discussions:<br>
><br>
> <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/04/opinion/nocera-brazil-is-abuzz-about-snowden.html?src=rechp" target="_blank">http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/04/opinion/nocera-brazil-is-abuzz-about-snowden.html?src=rechp</a><br>
><br>
> "Brazil all abuzz about Snowden", from the New York Times is superb. Not<br>
> coming from the American right like others who disqualify Snowden,<br>
> Greenwald and the whole setup, it does point to Greenwald's<br>
> manipulations of Brazil (where he resides, etc.)<br>
><br>
> I wrote someone months ago that Greenwald was paying royally for his<br>
> welcome - glad to see at least another view that agrees with that<br>
> interpretation.<br>
><br>
> Not to deny there is larger trouble out there, but this particularly<br>
> pernicious manipulation should not escape us; nor the opportunity to<br>
> point it out.<br>
><br>
> Also don't miss the European Parliament's massive resolution<br>
> in <a href="http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FNONSGML%2BCOMPARL%2BPE-526.085%2B02%2BDOC%2BPDF%2BV0%2F%2FEN" target="_blank">http://www.europarl.europa.eu/sides/getDoc.do?pubRef=-%2F%2FEP%2F%2FNONSGML%2BCOMPARL%2BPE-526.085%2B02%2BDOC%2BPDF%2BV0%2F%2FEN</a> or<br>
> shortened <a href="http://ow.ly/sozW0" target="_blank">http://ow.ly/sozW0</a><br>
><br>
> Yours,<br>
><br>
> Alejandro Pisanty<br>
><br>
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