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Ted, Joyce, would you, please, point me to the adequate Board
resolution, agreeing the text that you sent to the chapters? I tried
to find it, but was not successful.<br>
I have also written in my original email (see below Elver's
comments) that I would like to hear more on some of the items and
requirements, as they are not seen in the by-laws, and I don't
believe we have received an answer who created them, were they
approved by the Board, and if so, why are they not in the by-laws.
<br>
<br>
best,<br>
veni<br>
<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/13/13 06:49, Elver Loho wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi all,
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<div>We received the same letter at the Estonian chapter and I
quickly filed it under "things to get angry about later",
because I had work to do.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>My reaction may have been colored by the fact that during
the last recent stink on this list, I sent a letter to
Frederic on October 1st proposing a very concrete plan to
start a pan-European policy cooperation working group to
strenghten ISOC's presence in Europe and to get European
chapters involved in actual policy work. And thus far he has
failed to reply.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>We really need to come back to the core questions,
otherwise we'll never get these things sorted out.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>1. What is the role of chapters in ISOC?</div>
<div>2. What is the single most important thing that ISOC
expects chapters to do on a day-to-day basis?</div>
<div>3. How does ISOC expect chapters to finance this activity?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I may be a bit cynical here, but it seems to me that the
role of chapters is to show that ISOC has widespread support
around the globe, so as to get funding from PIR. And that ISOC
does not expect chapters to do anything, except get more
members. And that chapters should operate on an entirely
voluntary basis, acquiring new disciples, new names on a list.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Personally, when we joined ISOC, I was expecting at least
some sort of policy coordination and joint lobbying effort. I
was expecting that chapters would get access to experts in
international law, so that we could lobby better and ask
questions about upcoming treaties. I was expecting that we
would get access to a whole knowledge base and a network of
people to help us coordinate global policy. I was expecting to
get involved. To participate.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thus far I've been disappointed beyond belief.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best,</div>
<div>Elver</div>
<div>.ee</div>
<div><br>
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+372 5661 6933<br>
skype: elver.loho</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On 13 October 2013 12:44, Veni
Markovski <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:veni@veni.com" target="_blank">veni@veni.com</a>></span>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> <font
face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Hi, guys.<br>
I guess you have received similar letters? <br>
<br>
I already emailed Joyce that there are some issues with
the requirements, mainly in the responsibility of the
chapters ;-)<br>
Seems like ISOC is not concerned too much about the EU
personal data protection, or the fact that may be in
some chapters you cannot be a member of the global ISOC,
or that in some cases the elections of the Board may not
take place every year, or every two years; or that the
number of terms may not be limited; or that filing
updates with ISOC may mean extra weight on the chapters
to produce the documents from the General Assembly in
English; or that sharing information with the ISOC staff
may not be appropriate; or that promoting ISOC strategic
positions could be considered very inappropriate (what?
considering the position of a US-based non-profit???). <br>
<br>
Further than that, they are telling us that if do not
meet "one or more" of the "minimum standards", a process
of "rejuvenation" will be initiated. <br>
<br>
Somehow I miss all these in the ISOC by-laws, but may be
someone can enlightern us?<br>
<br>
thanks, and have a great Sunday!<br>
<br>
v.<br>
<br>
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<th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap"
valign="BASELINE">Subject: </th>
<td>Renewal Internet Society Chapter Charter</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap"
valign="BASELINE">Date: </th>
<td>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 14:42:56 +0000</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap"
valign="BASELINE">From: </th>
<td>Joyce Dogniez <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dogniez@isoc.org" target="_blank"><dogniez@isoc.org></a></td>
</tr>
<tr>
<th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap"
valign="BASELINE">To: </th>
<td><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:albena.arnaudova@gmail.com"
target="_blank">albena.arnaudova@gmail.com</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:albena.arnaudova@gmail.com"
target="_blank"><albena.arnaudova@gmail.com></a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mitko@mitko.com" target="_blank">mitko@mitko.com</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mitko@mitko.com" target="_blank"><mitko@mitko.com></a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dgreve@isoc.bg" target="_blank">dgreve@isoc.bg</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dgreve@isoc.bg" target="_blank"><dgreve@isoc.bg></a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:veni@veni.com" target="_blank">veni@veni.com</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:veni@veni.com" target="_blank"><veni@veni.com></a>,
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:julia@isoc.bg" target="_blank">julia@isoc.bg</a>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:julia@isoc.bg" target="_blank"><julia@isoc.bg></a></td>
</tr>
</tbody>
</table>
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<div>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica">Dear
Chapter Chair, </p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica">Dear
Chapter Officers,</p>
<p
style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica;min-height:17px"><br>
</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica">As
previously announced and in accordance with
article IV of the updated Bylaws of the Internet
Society on 22 July 2013, I am pleased to send
you the updated Chapter Charter letter for your
Chapter, including the chapter minimum standards
as well as the outline of the support to be
expected from the Internet Society. </p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica">This
letter reconfirms that the Chapter is chartered
and approved as a Chapter of the Internet
Society.</p>
<p
style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica;min-height:17px"><br>
</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica">These
mutual standards were developed in collaboration
and consultation with the Chapters over the past
couple of years prior to the Internet Society
Board of Trustees review. Their implementation
was placed on hold until passage of the updated
By-laws so that we could be certain that they
were conform with the amended and restated
By-laws. The performance standards herein
reflect both the letter and the spirit of the
updated By-laws.</p>
<p
style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica;min-height:17px"><br>
</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica">I
would kindly ask you to sign the Renewal Chapter
Charter letter and return it to <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chapter-support@isoc.org"
target="_blank"><span
style="color:rgb(4,46,238)">chapter-support@isoc.org</span></a>
before the 15th of December 2013.</p>
<p
style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica;min-height:17px"><br>
</p>
<p
style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica;color:rgb(47,47,47)"><span
style="background-color:#fffefe">Additionally,
in accordance with Article VIII, </span>Organisational Members
and Chapters shall each have the right to form
an Advisory body for the purpose of providing
information and advice to the Board of Trustees
and the President of the Internet Society on
matters of strategic importance to that
community. </p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica">As
kindly requested by a number of Chapter Officers
you will receive an invitation next week to join
an initial working group that will look at the
creation and governance of the Chapter Advisory
body.</p>
<p
style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica;min-height:17px"><br>
</p>
<p
style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica;color:rgb(4,46,238)"><span
style="color:#000000">Should you wish to
review the full revised By-laws : <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/governance-and-policies/amended-and-restated-laws-internet-society"
target="_blank">http://www.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/governance-and-policies/amended-and-restated-laws-internet-society</a> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica"> </p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica">Please
do not hesitate to contact me or any member of
the Chapter Development Team for any
further information. </p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica">Naveed
Haq (Chapter Development Manager Asia-Pacific)
and myself will be at the IGF in Bali as well,
and have set up a calendar at <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://doodle.com/6iwta8yep3kkrrpf"
target="_blank"><span
style="color:rgb(128,27,128)">http://doodle.com/6iwta8yep3kkrrpf</span></a> should
you wish to meet there. </p>
<p
style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica;min-height:17px"><br>
</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica">I'd
like to thank you for your continuous support
and passion to advance the Internet Society's
mission in your region.</p>
<p
style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica;min-height:17px"><br>
</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica">Kind
regards</p>
<p style="margin:0px;font-family:Helvetica">Joyce</p>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"> </font></span></div>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
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<div>-- </div>
<div>
<div
style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:medium">Joyce
Dogniez, CMM</div>
<div
style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:medium">Director
of Chapters</div>
<div
style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:medium">Internet
Society</div>
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<div
style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:medium"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dogniez@isoc.org"
target="_blank">dogniez@isoc.org</a></div>
<div
style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:medium">tel:
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B352%20621%20266%20189"
value="+352621266189" target="_blank">+352
621 266 189</a></div>
<div
style="font-family:Calibri;font-size:medium">Skype:
joycedogniez</div>
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Best,
Veni Markovski
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