<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Folks </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">
Veni and Bryan jumped to the defense of the operational staff of ISOC, most of whom are dedicated, hardworking and responsive. I believe David Solomonoff shares that belief as well. The problem was not the operating people but policies, sometimes arbitrary, imposed from above.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> When David and previously I criticized "staff" we were speaking of the most senior "staffers," starting with the CEO who has already resigned. I know she has at least three times refused both public and private requests (one mine) to at least talk with the Cambodians. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> Until ISOC becomes itself "multi-stakeholder," we should stop preaching to others they should be "multi-stakeholder." </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><div class="gmail_default"> If Lynn (and Markus) don't want to engage with the chapters and members, they should get out of the way and have the board appoint acting officials. </div>
<div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> No responsible chief of a membership organization should refuse to even talk with an active group of members. In this case, at least a dozen chapters echoes the request she get involved. Some of the issues the Cambodians raised were probably unnecessary; others were clearly substantive. </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> ISOC is potentially a very valuable tool. Let's all work to live up to our principles.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Dave Burstein</div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 1:17 PM, Veni Markovski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:veni@veni.com" target="_blank">veni@veni.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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Bryan.<br>
I don't think the staff is to be blamed. <br>
And I am really sad about the dissolution of ISOC-KH. <br>
I believe that ISOC should try to repair the damage. Hope they can
do it.<br>
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v.<br><br>
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<div>On 11/05/13 09:37, Bryan Tan wrote:<br>
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<div>While I agree this turn of events is tragic, I would not
be quick to point fingers. <br>
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In Singapore, we encounter the same set of ISOC staff and have
found them to be helpful and supportive. Sure, there are times
when we do not get things our way but the aim is for the
betterment of the community, not our individual wants.<br>
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I have also just come back from Bali and interacted with over
35 ISOC fellows and chapter representatives and none had
anything bad to say about ISOC staff.<br>
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As someone pointed out, in this week where Cambodia dissolves,
two new chapters have applied for admission - it can't be all
that bad.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 11:12 AM, David
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<div>This is tragic - both for Cambodia's netizens (past,
present and future) and for ISOC.<br>
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It will have long-term negative consequences for the
global organization in ways that are hard to anticipate.
But first and foremost will be the temptation for other
Chapters to dissolve or dissociate whenever there is
disagreement.<br>
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If other Chapters follow a similar path, the credibility
- and even the viability - of ISOC will be severely
damaged.<br>
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The ISOC staff who allowed this to happen have made a
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