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In addition. I believe that large participation of chapters in the
Advisory Board task force <br>
from all over the world is a positive approach,<br>
however for final results to be drafted based on the collected
opinions a committee of few people will be needed.<br>
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Borka<br>
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Dne 15.10.2013 12:59, piše Charles Oloo:<br>
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<div>+1 John<br>
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Nicely put.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 1:50 PM, John
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Determining the role and scope lf the Council within the
structure of the Internet Society (obviously also including
a discussion and understanding of the role of the Chapters)
is a pre-condition to designing the structure of the
Council.<br>
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John<br>
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On Oct 15, 2013, at 5:28 AM, Christian de Larrinaga <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:cdel@firsthand.net">cdel@firsthand.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
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> Yes... Important to note that.<br>
><br>
> The term is "Advisory" not political nor
hierarchical, nor<br>
> representational nor any of the myriad ratholes
such an activity can be<br>
> pushed down.<br>
><br>
> Can this be structured as a "meeting" of chapters
to develop and discuss<br>
> priorities and advise the ISOC board and possibly
chapters as a whole?<br>
><br>
> I wonder. Experience shows a strong preconception
in this generation to<br>
> develop structure, elections, board, officers,
business cards, status,<br>
> entitlement, then representational assumptions ....<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Christian<br>
><br>
> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote:<br>
>> Chris,<br>
>><br>
>> glad to know you are interested as well.<br>
>><br>
>> You may have missed this from a message of mine
on October 1:<br>
>><br>
>> "The *one* true innovation in the landscape is
the possibility in the<br>
>> Bylaws to create a Chapter Advisory Council.<br>
>><br>
>> Previous attempts have failed and I am among
those who have had serious<br>
>> doubts about the concept. We should test it
now. We know afresh much of<br>
>> what the Council should be able to do and what
is out of its scope.<br>
>> Let's get on to it. I'm in if I can be
considered useful."<br>
>><br>
>> I think that before any of us puts his/her
names up for roles we need to<br>
>> start doing some actual work. What in the
present landscape can a<br>
>> Chapter Advisory Council do that improves the
situation, what could<br>
>> actually go wrong with it?<br>
>><br>
>> IMO a Chapter Advisory Council can bridge many
gaps and make sure there<br>
>> is a persistent and consistent voice from the
chapters. It must not try<br>
>> to take over from the chapters, however, nor
become one more<br>
>> self-propelled power center or attempt to
become one. IMO that is what<br>
>> killed a well-known previous regional model.<br>
>><br>
>> Yours,<br>
>><br>
>> Alejandro Pisanty<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - -<br>
>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty<br>
>> Facultad de Química UNAM<br>
>> Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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FROM ABROAD<br>
>><br>
>> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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DESDE MÉXICO SMS <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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>> Blog: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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>> LinkedIn: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty"
target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty</a><br>
>> Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,<br>
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href="http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614"
target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614</a><br>
>> Twitter: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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>> ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, <a
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target="_blank">http://www.isoc.org</a><br>
>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .<br>
>><br>
>>
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>> *Desde:* <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a><br>
>> [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>]
en nombre de CW Mail<br>
>> [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:mail@christopherwilkinson.eu">mail@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>]<br>
>> *Enviado el:* domingo, 13 de octubre de 2013
15:53<br>
>> *Hasta:* ISOC Chapter Delegates<br>
>> *Asunto:* [Chapter-delegates] Chapter Advisory
Council - creation of an<br>
>> Interim Steering Committee<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Good Evening:<br>
>><br>
>> /> The ISOC Board of Trustees … acknowledged
the right of Chapters to<br>
>> form an advisory group/<br>
>><br>
>> Further to the Note to Chapters that we have
all received from Walda<br>
>> Roseman, I suggest that it is now down to the
Chapters ourselves to<br>
>> initiate the organisation of at the Chapters
Advisory Council.<br>
>><br>
>> To this effect, I would be prepared to take on
the röle of Convenor of<br>
>> an Interim Steering Committee for the creation
of the Chapters Advisory<br>
>> Council. If that would be acceptable, I would
be glad to see expressions<br>
>> of interest to participate in the Steering
Group posted to the Chapters<br>
>> Delegates List. In the first instance, the
Steering Group should<br>
>> comprise at least one recognised member from
each of the principal<br>
>> geographical regions. The initial objective
might be to work towards a<br>
>> first plenary meeting of the Council in
mid-2014, for instance in London.<br>
>><br>
>> With best regards to you all,<br>
>><br>
>> Christopher Wilkinson<br>
>><br>
>> PS:For those of you who do not know me, I
initiated the discussion about<br>
>> Chapter membership of ISOC in 2010 (and have
had a stake in that since<br>
>> then).<br>
>> I am reasonably multilingual EN/FR/ES; and at
72 I have no interest in a<br>
>> longer-term commitment.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 01 Oct 2013, at 21:21, Walda Roseman <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:roseman@isoc.org">roseman@isoc.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:roseman@isoc.org">roseman@isoc.org</a>>>
wrote:<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>> _______________________________________________<br>
>> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are
automatically subscribed<br>
>> to this list, which is regularly synchronized
with the Internet Society<br>
>> Chapter Portal (AMS): <a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://portal.isoc.org"
target="_blank">https://portal.isoc.org</a><br>
> _______________________________________________<br>
> As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are
automatically subscribed<br>
> to this list, which is regularly synchronized with
the Internet Society<br>
> Chapter Portal (AMS): <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://portal.isoc.org" target="_blank">https://portal.isoc.org</a><br>
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