<div dir="ltr"><br><div><div>Dear All<br><br></div><div>Am pleased to read open and animated contributions on this subject. Indeed Chapters especially in developing countries have and are experiencing difficulties in chapter administration processes, that have led to some of us think of the essence of volunteerism. As mentioned by colleagues, I don't understand how model of Chapters administration, is supposed to function properly in regions / countries, and yet ISOC Global most times also deals / with individual members irr4spective of the Chapter's hierarchy. This utterly deameans the authority and influence of local chapters and sends a point that participating in local chapters activities is not all necessary nor important as still access to support and help from ISOC Global is still possible. These are some of the reasons why some members do not care about Chapter issues.<br>
<br></div><div>Some of us almost gave up, after volunteering passionately so much, using our own resources to advance the Society's agenda on different front, experienced surmountable difficulties, missions and object, yet getting getting little measurable support from ISOC.<br>
<br></div><div>The other issues I wish to mention is<br><br></div><div>There is a saying that life begins @ 40, having attained work eexperience as professionalism on any field. In fact its these professional that share their knowledge to help in mentoring and guiding upcoming young aspiring experts. But at ISOC when it comes to opportunities, preference is given to under 40. this is very demoralizing and has sincerely made most people who would have otherwise contributed, stay aside, seeing no reason since at the end of the day, he/she will be locked out of most existing opportunities defined by ISOC. I had supported this idea but after thoroughly analysing it, I think its not progressive and fair, and has somehow contributed to low number voluntary membership.<br>
<br>On this I strongly support <span name="Elver Loho">Elver Loho </span>position and comments, among others. These issues need to addressed comprehensively.<br><br> <br></div><div>Regards<br></div><div>Charles<br></div><div>
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<td><table cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td><div><span name="Elver Loho">Elver Loho</span> <span><a href="mailto:elver.loho@gmail.com" target="_blank">elver.loho@gmail.com</a></span> <span><a href="http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=1311182&ctx=mail" target="_blank">via</a> <a href="http://elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">elists.isoc.org</a> </span></div>
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</td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div>Hi all,<br>
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I haven't kept up with this email list, but from what I can gather the<br>
Cambodian Chapter wants to disassociate from ISOC due to lack of<br>
direct financial support for the basic running and operation of the<br>
Chapter.<br>
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I do not speak for my Chapter here, but personally I wholeheartedly<br>
support this gesture. If this happens, then maybe, just maybe, ISOC<br>
senior staff will start taking the issue of providing support for<br>
Chapters around the world seriously.<br>
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Right now Chapters seem to exist more as a way for ISOC HQ to show<br>
that they have support and members around the world. We're all<br>
providing a sort of legitimacy for the people at the HQ. Do we get<br>
something back for this? Sort of. I mean, maybe. To some degree.<br>
Though here in Estonia very few people have heard of the Internet<br>
Society while our own local language brand carries a lot of weight.<br>
Your situation may be different.<br>
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Meanwhile we're battling with basic organizational issues, because we<br>
can't even afford to keep up basic maintenance. At times we're even<br>
unable to reply to government's requests for comments on pending<br>
legislation, because we all have regular jobs or businesses to run.<br>
This has to end. If what it takes is for one or more Chapters to<br>
secede from the union, then so be it. If the Cambodian Chapter goes<br>
through with this, I'm willing to put the question of secession up for<br>
debate in our own Chapter.<br>
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I urge other Chapter leaders to consider the same.<br>
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Best,<br>
Elver<br>
.ee<br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:25 PM, Ted Mooney <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mooney@isoc.org" target="_blank">mooney@isoc.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>ISOC Staff and, in particular, Membership and Services, are saddened by the recent decision and communication from the Cambodian Chapter regarding their desire to dissociate from the Internet Society for administrative and other support concerns. I believe,
however, there has been an unfortunate miscommunication. The Chapter Development and APAC staff have reached out to the Cambodian Chapter on numerous occasions. As many of you know, our Chapter Development team has worked with other chapters to help address
issues nearly identical to what the Cambodian Chapter is experiencing. Our offer of collaboration remains. </div>
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<div>The issue of the lack of direct financial transfers is currently not among the solutions the Internet Society can offer. There are, nevertheless many other avenues to address the administrative support of the Chapter, which are both local and long term.
Indeed Staff are working with Chapter volunteers and have convened a new Chapter Administrative Support Working Group to address this issue broadly. We hope the Cambodian Chapter will reassess their position and re-engage with ISOC staff as soon as possible.
Our Chapter Development staff will reach out once again to the Cambodian Chapter officers.</div>
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