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But wait, that's not all! <br>
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This is becoming more and more worrisome! <br>
The text, actually, comes from... ISOC Global !!<br>
<b>It is mandatory</b>! <br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/guidelines/bylaws.shtml">http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/guidelines/bylaws.shtml</a><br>
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<h4>Article XI. - Amendment and Voting Procedures</h4>
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<li>*All proposed changes to these Chapter Bylaws shall have been
approved by the ISOC Membership Team before being presented to
the Chapter membership for a vote.* </li>
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I have no recollection about these guidelines, but they have so many
flaws, errors and statements which contradict the national law, that
if it was up to me, I would remove them permanently right now from
the web site, and will put a statement that they were there by a
mistake. <br>
Why I am saying it? Because it is not the only mandatory text in
these guidelines, and the rest is equally unacceptable by national
legislation, but also by common sense. Take article 1:<br>
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<h4>Article I. - Name</h4>
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<li>* This organization shall be called the [<strong> your chapter
name</strong> ] Chapter of the Internet Society.* </li>
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There's no way for a non-profit, which is created, and is not yet a
recognized chapter to have this in their title. Further, to put it
in the title, in some jurisdictions, would require some kind of
document from ISOC, and in some cases this may be a Board decision.
A Board decision of ISOC HQ. Really? Really???<br>
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Or how about article II - Purpose - <b> (again mandatory!)</b><br>
* This Chapter is chartered by the Internet Society. These bylaws
neither supersede nor abrogate any of the Bylaws of the Internet
Society that regulate chapter affairs.* <br>
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What if the bylaws of ISOC.org are against the laws of national
chapters?<br>
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I can only imagine how some chapters might be feeling now, when they
are reading these quotes. <br>
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But wait, that's not all! <br>
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How about "* All members of a chapter shall also be members of the
Internet Society*"<b> (again mandatory!)</b> <br>
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Really?<br>
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Again - this page needs urgent take down. <br>
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best,<br>
veni<br>
chairman of the board<br>
ISOC - Bulgaria. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/27/13 13:45, Klaus Birkenbihl
wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Norbert Klein wrote on 2013-09-27
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<blockquote type="cite">During this process we also faced the
dilemma resulting from the following section of the proposed
Bylaws:<br>
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<p class="western" style="margin-top: 0.07in; margin-bottom:
0.07in" align="JUSTIFY"><small><font size="5"><small><b>Article
XI. - Amendment and Voting Procedures</b></small></font></small></p>
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<p class="western" style="margin-top: 0.07in"
align="JUSTIFY"><font size="3">All proposed changes to
these Chapter Bylaws shall have been approved by the
Internet Society (International) before being
presented to the Chapter membership for a vote.</font></p>
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Hoho! Would be good to know how many chapters have this in their
bylaws. (I wonder how to work as a responsible board member of a
registered association in county (A) while non members of the
association in country (B) can control and block decisions.) Not
being the lawyer in our board I wonder if this would be legal at
all. And what btw. if a chapter member requests a change of the
bylaws? How could this work? Just for curiosity: is the guy who
"proposed" this still on ISOC staff?<br>
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Best, Klaus<br>
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Internet Society German Chapter e.V. (ISOC.DE)
c/o ict-Media GmbH
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