<div dir="ltr"><p class="" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Hi Mark. Hope
things are well with you.</span><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"></span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> </span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-size:12pt">Let me try to address your concern
(and Peter Koch's concern). </span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> </span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-size:12pt">From ISOC’s website: “An Internet Society Chapter brings
together individual members of the Internet Society who share an interest and
belief in the Internet Society’s principles and mission and who are committed
to furthering the Internet Society’s goals and objectives within your
geographic or special interest area.” The words “or special interest area”
certainly seem to say that geography isn't the only thing that can define an
ISOC chapter—as your chapter certainly demonstrates.</span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> </span><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-size:12pt">Our interest area is global in
scope, not aligned with any particular geographic region. Indeed, it would not
be wise to associate IPNSIG with any geographical region because that would
inherently discourage membership from outside the region. To paraphrase Paul
Brooks "If we're going to be a SIG or project associated with a Chapter--
what chapter would you propose?" While relatively close to the Jet
Propulsion Laboratory in Pasadena (about 6-7 hours driving time), that’s only
one of the geographical centers of research and interest in interplanetary
networking. There are others centered on the East Coast, in Sweden, in Ireland,
in Greece, in Australia and other locations around the globe. Restricting it to a project
or SIG associated with the San Francisco Bay Area Chapter (as it currently is)
makes it problematic to host events that do not limit participation to the
Northern California region. We are planning a major IPN event at Google HQ in
Mountain View next January—but we are also planning one in the Washington, D.C.
area late next year, and have just started discussions with the N4C community
in Europe about hosting an event there in 2015. We are doing this precisely
because we recognize that our target audience and our membership is global.</span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Beyond that, technical concerns are
often not just technical. There is an important societal concern element here
that is core to ISOC values: the openness and transparency of the technical
standards that drive the Internet. It is not an issue today. There really is no
Internet in outer space-- yet. But we believe there should be, and that the
same openness, transparency and trust issues will exist. It is not in the
interest of the people of the earth to have space data communications remain
the prerogative of competing nation states. Commercialization of space will not
supplant sovereign state "ownership" of space exploration and eventual
use of space resources without it. </span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Work done by IPNSIG members over the
past years has planted the seeds of this movement towards transparency and
openness. Standards have been developed, not in secret government labs-- but
under the auspices of IRTF. NASA has publicly released the core IPN software as
open source code. The first chairman of IPNSIG (Adrian Hooke from the Jet
Propulsion Laboratory) founded the Consultative Committee for Space Data
systems, whose membership includes space agencies from almost every
space-faring nation on the planet. That organization is in the process of
adopting the Delay & Disruption Tolerant Networking (DTN) suite of
protocols, which will foster cooperation and collaboration by the world's space
agencies, and pave the way for a trusted, trustworthy space infrastructure that
will allow for the peaceful exploration and potential use of off-planet
resources. </span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Furthermore, the application of
these DTN technologies towards solving terrestrial problems is gaining
momentum. The N4C community in the European Union has applied them towards
monitoring wildlife in remote regions, and there have been several proposals to
use DTN to provide inexpensive, secure network services to remote areas. </span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">We believe that the interest and
impact of IPN is global, and that, therefore, a global ISOC chapter is the best
solution to both allow interested parties access to the chapter, and to allow
for global collaboration with regional chapters to further the development and
deployment of DTN technologies. It deserves and needs a chapter's resources
dedicated to it, rather than continuing as a project of SF Bay ISOC. </span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"> </span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">Mike Snell</span></p>
<p class="" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif">President, San Francisco Bay Area
Chapter</span></p><p class="" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt"><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;font-size:12pt;line-height:115%">Secretary/Treasurer, IPNSIG</span></p></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 7:37 AM, Urban, Mark (CDC/OCOO/OCIO/ITSO) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fka2@cdc.gov" target="_blank">fka2@cdc.gov</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
The Disability and Special Needs Chapter shares the same concerns as <a href="http://ISOC.DE" target="_blank">ISOC.DE</a>. As the only Global Chapter, we can recognize the occasional need for a unique Chapter environs. However, in our case, the reasoning for the chapter was based upon unique societal needs, rather than a technical interest. A nonvoting SIG (Special Interest Group) might be the more appropriate venue for consideration of these problems.<br>
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Regards,<br>
<br>
Mark D. Urban<br>
Vice Chair, ISOC DSN Chapter.<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: <a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>] On Behalf Of Peter Koch<br>
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 10:22 AM<br>
To: ISOC Chapter Delegates<br>
Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Application to form an InterPlanetary Networking Chapter<br>
<br>
On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 07:27:10AM +0000, Sabrina Wilmot wrote:<br>
<br>
> The following application for an InterPlanetary Networking Chapter has been received. It is being sent to this list for peer comment and review.<br>
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> FYI: The group had started their work in a Special Interest Group ("IPNSIG") and is currently formally a project of the San Francisco Bay Area Chapter. The applicants state:<br>
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<a href="http://ISOC.DE" target="_blank">ISOC.DE</a> applauds the initiative with the greatest respect towards the well renowned proponents. That said, we would like to ask for a clarification regarding chapter eligibility.<br>
While there is at least one prominent example of a non-geographic chapter, the initiative appears to be more of a project nature than a cross region ISOC member organisation. No doubt it deserves support from ISOC, but we remain unconvinced that a chapter is the best choice, strategically.<br>
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