<div dir="ltr">On this issue of  joint colloboration on national issues  we need a simple communication plan so that  ISOC HQ  and the individual chapter uses the media effectively.  <div>If the local chapter is unaware or unable to speak on a topic it needs  HQ help and the local intelligence is important as the local talking head so the local chapter builds  it's own creditibily .</div>
<div><br></div><div>Recently Evan Leibovitch of  ISOC  Canadian Chapter was contacted on the  Canadian angle on the  UK  Porn Filter concept in a Canadian context.   The story was from the local press   We need  to have  short  factoids  on various topics  so we can feed the press when stories arise.  Evan who is a formal journalist  is looking at creating a  public relations/media kit</div>
<div><br></div><div>Glenn</div><div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div>Glenn McKnight<br>Membership Outeach<br><div>ISOC Canada Chapter</div><div>skype gmcknight</div><div>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Veni Markovski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:veni@veni.com" target="_blank">veni@veni.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

  
    
  
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    Needless to say, but still: +1. <br>
    We keep on repeating in the last - how many? - years that the
    chapters, being the natural allies of ISOC.org, are either not being
    asked to help properly, or are not integrated enough in the work and
    activities of HQ, <b>regardless</b> (stressing on that!) of the
    fact that the individuals, dealing with the chapters are quote
    skilled and great people.<div><div class="h5"><br>
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    <div>On 08/03/2013 15:04, Dr. Alejandro
      Pisanty Baruch wrote:<br>
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        <div>This - coordination between ISOC global-to-local and
          chapters - continues to be a sore spot and as Latjor says, it
          reflects negatively on the Society.</div>
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        <div>And it can't be hidden when it happens.</div>
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        <div>Yours,</div>
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        <div>Alejandro Pisanty<br>
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                             Dr. Alejandro Pisanty<br>
                        Facultad de Química UNAM </font></span></span></div>
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                      Blog: <a href="http://pisanty.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://pisanty.blogspot.com</a><br>
                      LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty</a><br>
                      Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,
                      <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614</a><br>
                      Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/apisanty" target="_blank">http://twitter.com/apisanty</a><br>
                      ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico,
                      <a href="http://www.isoc.org" target="_blank">http://www.isoc.org</a><br>
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            <div style="direction:ltr"><font color="#000000" face="Tahoma"><b>Desde:</b>
                <a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>
                [<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>] en nombre de
                GABRIEL LATJOR NDOW [<a href="mailto:md@gambian.com" target="_blank">md@gambian.com</a>]<br>
                <b>Enviado el:</b> sábado, 03 de agosto de 2013 13:42<br>
                <b>Hasta:</b> Chris Mulola; Chapter Delegates<br>
                <b>CC:</b> <a href="mailto:durban-workshop-2013@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">durban-workshop-2013@elists.isoc.org</a><br>
                <b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates]
                [Durban-workshop-2013] I root server copy in Kigali,
                Rwanda .. ongoing installation<br>
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            <div>Chris,
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                    <div>How can we ask Government to involve ISOC
                      chapters in internet related issues in their
                      respective countries if ISOC Global does not
                      always involve those very chapters in the works
                      that it is doing with those governments. </div>
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                <div>I fully concur with your astute observation! I have
                  raised the same issue with the Africa Bureau on every
                  occasion I have met with staff members. For instance,
                  I learnt about the IXP project in my country a few
                  days before a workshop was held in conjunction with
                  the ministry of communications, ISOC Global (Jane
                  Coffin, Dir. Int'l Strategy ISOC Global was in town)
                  and the AU. </div>
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                <div>I have also wondered why ISOC spends a great deal
                  of time proselytizing on the multistakeholder model,
                  and an open, unencumbered internet when some of the
                  governments ISOC Global is cooperating with have no
                  intention of adopting any of these core principles.
                   The local chapters can have a strong influence in
                  helping our governments and other stakeholders (ISPs
                  etc...) adopt best practices (policies, technical,...)
                  and values eschewed by ISOC, if they are empowered
                  accordingly. This only makes sense for after all, we
                  are on our home soil and understand better than any
                  outsider the real issues on the ground.</div>
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                <div>Hopefully, this will be considered going forward.</div>
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                <div>Latjor</div>
                <div>Gambia <br>
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                    <div>On Aug 1, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Chris Mulola wrote:</div>
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                        <div>Hi Michuki,</div>
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                        <div>Could you possibly probably give me an
                          update on the I root server installation
                          progress here in Rwanda, I got this info from
                          Patrick <span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px">Fältström </span>(<a href="mailto:paf@frobbit.se" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:14px" target="_blank">paf@frobbit.se</a>)
                           and thought that this could be a good thing
                          for the chapter if you could at least involve
                          us in this project.</div>
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                        <div>This is one of the things that keep
                          governments away from chapters as they always
                          realize that they can get every support from
                          ISOC Global without going or having any
                          interaction whatsoever from ISOC chapters, and
                          that is where they say: what is the use of
                          these chapters anyway?<br>
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                          I understand these might be contracts that
                          ISOC wins on a global scale however by us
                          chapters learning from an outsider that there
                          is an ISOC project going on within our country
                          makes us look like the least unprofessional
                          team ever in our local internet
                          community...sort of the last ones to be
                          informed.</div>
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                        <div>How can we ask Government to involve ISOC
                          chapters in internet related issues in their
                          respective countries if ISOC Global does not
                          always involve those very chapters in the
                          works that it is doing with those
                          governments. </div>
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                        <div>Please let me for any comments, thanks.</div>
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                        <div> .-- </div>
                        Best regards,<br>
                        <br>
                        Chris Mulola, President<br>
                        ISOC Rwanda<br>
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                        Not everything that is faced can be changed. But
                        nothing can be changed until it is faced.
                        <i>(James Baldwin)</i> </div>
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