<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:14pt">Hi All,<br><br>I expereinced the same situation in Mali, although I have been involved as Deputy Facilitator by our government agency in charge of the IXP AXIS Project I just heard of some weeks before de workshop.<br><br>I have send same sort of mail asking more infos from ISOC Global and till now I received no reply.<br><br>We must ask Dawit Bekele to forward our request officially to ISOC Global in order to be heard on this issue.<br><br>Yours, Mamadou.<br><br><br>J'ai vécu la même situation au Mali, bien que finalement j'ai été coopté comme Facilitateur Adjoint par l'agence gouvernementale en charge de l'Atelier d'AXIS, projet dont j'avais entendu parlé juste quelques semaines avant le dit Atelier.<br><br>J'ai envoyé un email pour demander plus d’informations a ISOC International et jusqu’à ce jour je n'ai reçu aucune
réponse.<br><br>Nous devons demander a Dawit Bekele de faire suivre notre plainte officiellement a Isoc Internationale afin d'etre entendu sur ce sujet.<br><br>Sincèrement votre, Mamadou.<br><div><span><br></span></div><div> </div><div><b><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#0000FF">Dr Mamadou Diallo Iam,</font></b><br><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">Stratégie de Développement des TIC,</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">FK 33, Porte 225, Faso Kanu, Magnanbougou</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size:small;">Bamako, Mali, 00 223 6683 4486.</span></div><br> <div style="font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <div dir="ltr"> <hr size="1"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> m i <mi@ayuub.org><br>
<b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> GABRIEL LATJOR NDOW <md@gambian.com> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Chapter Delegates <chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org>; durban-workshop-2013@elists.isoc.org <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Saturday, August 3, 2013 8:52 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] [Durban-workshop-2013] I root server copy in Kigali, Rwanda .. ongoing installation<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br>
<div id="yiv999971578"><div dir="ltr">Spot on Mr Mulola and others. Now let us hear from the gurus and others at the AU in Addis ....<div><br></div><div>Mohamed</div><div>Mogadishu / <a target="_blank" href="http://isoc.so/">isoc.so</a> </div></div><div class="yiv999971578gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="yiv999971578gmail_quote">
On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:42 PM, GABRIEL LATJOR NDOW <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:md@gambian.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:md@gambian.com">md@gambian.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="yiv999971578gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word;">Chris,<div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>How can we ask Government to involve ISOC chapters in internet related issues in their respective countries if ISOC Global does not always involve those very chapters in the works that it is doing with those governments. </div>
</div></blockquote><div><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div></div></div><div>I fully concur with your astute observation! I have raised the same issue with the Africa Bureau on every occasion I have met with staff members. For instance, I learnt about the IXP project in my country a few days before a workshop was held in conjunction with the ministry of communications, ISOC Global (Jane Coffin, Dir. Int'l Strategy ISOC Global was in town) and the AU. </div>
<div><br></div><div>I have also wondered why ISOC spends a great deal of time proselytizing on the multistakeholder model, and an open, unencumbered internet when some of the governments ISOC Global is cooperating with have no intention of adopting any of these core principles. The local chapters can have a strong influence in helping our governments and other stakeholders (ISPs etc...) adopt best practices (policies, technical,...) and values eschewed by ISOC, if they are empowered accordingly. This only makes sense for after all, we are on our home soil and understand better than any outsider the real issues on the ground.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Hopefully, this will be considered going forward.</div><div><br></div><div>Latjor</div><div>Gambia <br><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On Aug 1, 2013, at 4:12 PM, Chris Mulola wrote:</div>
<div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Michuki,</div><div><br></div><div>Could you possibly probably give me an update on the I root server installation progress here in Rwanda, I got this info from Patrick <span style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:14px;">Fältström </span>(<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:paf@frobbit.se" target="_blank" href="mailto:paf@frobbit.se" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif;font-size:14px;">paf@frobbit.se</a>) and thought that this could be a good thing for the chapter if you could at least involve us in this project.</div>
<div><br></div><div>This is one of the things that keep governments away from chapters as they always realize that they can get every support from ISOC Global without going or having any interaction whatsoever from ISOC chapters, and that is where they say: what is the use of these chapters anyway?<br>
<br>I understand these might be contracts that ISOC wins on a global scale however by us chapters learning from an outsider that there is an ISOC project going on within our country makes us look like the least unprofessional team ever in our local internet community...sort of the last ones to be informed.</div>
<div><br></div><div>How can we ask Government to involve ISOC chapters in internet related issues in their respective countries if ISOC Global does not always involve those very chapters in the works that it is doing with those governments. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Please let me for any comments, thanks.</div><div><br></div><div> .-- </div>Best regards,<br><br>Chris Mulola, President<br>ISOC Rwanda<br><br><br>Not everything that is faced can be changed. But nothing can be changed until it is faced. <i>(James Baldwin)</i>
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