<div dir="ltr">My apologies for not forking the thread. I have changed the subject.<div><br></div><div>Thanks for the links Gary, I'll look to read up.<br><div><br></div><div>I did cover a related event some time back in which the American Society of Journalists and Authors (ASJA) , the National Writers Union (NWU), and the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America (SFWA) all opposed the Authors Guild position.</div>
<div><a href="http://punkcast.com/1704/">http://punkcast.com/1704/</a><br></div><div><br></div><div style>So there is not even consensus there.</div><div style><br></div><div style>j</div><div><br><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 12:55 PM, Gary W Kenward <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:garykenward@eastlink.ca" target="_blank">garykenward@eastlink.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div>Some references:</div><div><br></div>Harvard librarian Robert Darnton apparently initiated the backlash in 2009 with his New York Review of Books article "<a href="http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2009/feb/12/google-the-future-of-books/" target="_blank">Google & the Future of Books</a>". <div>
<br></div><div>Pamela Samuelson (Professor of Law at the University of California, Berkeley) also published an article in 2009 on Huffington Post, "<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/pamela-samuelson/google-books-is-not-a-lib_b_317518.html" target="_blank">Google Books is Not a Library</a>" (there are a series of articles on Huffington Post concerning the Google Books saga from Prof. Samuelson on the Huffington Post site).<br>
<div><div><br></div><div>Darnton wrote a summary of the struggle around Google Books in his 2011 article <a href="http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2011/apr/28/googles-loss-publics-gain/" target="_blank">Google’s Loss: The Public’s Gain</a>. The turn point for many was the issue of "fair use" being determined by a sole commercial entity, namely Google. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Darnton went on to foster the creation of the <a href="http://dp.la/" target="_blank">Digital Public Library of America</a>, launched April 18th of this year. So, for the moment, the American public is ahead.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I also found one book on the Google Books saga. I haven't read it, but the on-line reviews appear good.</div><div><br></div><div>"The Battle for the Books: Inside Google’s Gambit to Create the World’s Biggest Library", by Jeff John Roberts. It's vailable on Amazon, Barnes & Noble and Apple. The Amazon price is currently $2.90.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Gary</div><div><div><div style="text-indent:0px;letter-spacing:normal;font-variant:normal;text-align:-webkit-auto;font-style:normal;font-weight:normal;line-height:normal;text-transform:none;font-size:medium;white-space:normal;font-family:Arial;word-spacing:0px">
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<br><div><div>On 2013.06.16, at 8:13 PM, Joly MacFie <<a href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com" target="_blank">joly@punkcast.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sun, Jun 16, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Gary W Kenward <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:garykenward@eastlink.ca" target="_blank">garykenward@eastlink.ca</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">The only groups of people who have expressed a concern over Google's growing acquisition of information, as far as I know, are the various library associations around the world</blockquote>
</div><br><br>Source? I had thought libraries quite keen on the book scanning project. Any resistance has been from publishers and authors.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">j</div><div class="gmail_extra">
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