<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><span style="font-family: '.Helvetica NeueUI'; font-size: 14px; text-align: left; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; ">While the only voice come from staff of different organizations, things will remain the same</span></div><div><span style="font-family: '.Helvetica NeueUI'; font-size: 14px; text-align: left; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: none; "><br></span></div><div>Carlos Vera <br><br><div>Internet Society Ecuador</div><div><a href="http://www.isoc.org.ec">www.isoc.org.ec</a></div>Síguenos @isocec</div><div><br>El 16/05/2013, a las 16:41, "Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch" <<a href="mailto:apisan@unam.mx">apisan@unam.mx</a>> escribió:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Elver,</span><br><span></span><br><span>Stockholm syndrome is surprisingly abundant in Geneva.</span><br><span></span><br><span>In Spanish, "el que con lobos se junta a aullar se enseña", he/she who consorts with wolves learns to howl. </span><br><span></span><br><span>I join you in your call for ISOC to speak with clear, distinctive language.</span><br><span></span><br><span>And I differ further: "we" did not carry the day. The game is not on our field anymore and that is the others' victory.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Good luck with your e-voting case! Ask Hamadoun Touré for help...</span><br><span></span><br><span>Yours,</span><br><span></span><br><span>Alejandro Pisanty</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -</span><br><span> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty</span><br><span>Facultad de Química UNAM</span><br><span>Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico</span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>+52-1-5541444475 FROM ABROAD</span><br><span></span><br><span>+525541444475 DESDE MÉXICO SMS +525541444475</span><br><span>Blog: <a href="http://pisanty.blogspot.com">http://pisanty.blogspot.com</a></span><br><span>LinkedIn: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty">http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty</a></span><br><span>Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614">http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614</a></span><br><span>Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/apisanty">http://twitter.com/apisanty</a></span><br><span>---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, <a href="http://www.isoc.org">http://www.isoc.org</a></span><br><span>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .</span><br><span></span><br><span>________________________________________</span><br><span>Desde: <a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a> [<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>] en nombre de Elver Loho [<a href="mailto:elver.loho@gmail.com">elver.loho@gmail.com</a>]</span><br><span>Enviado el: jueves, 16 de mayo de 2013 16:27</span><br><span>Hasta: Chapter Delegates</span><br><span>Asunto: Re: [Chapter-delegates] NEWS RELEASE: ITU World Telecommunication Policy Forum Closes Focused on Continuing Open Dialogue</span><br><span></span><br><span>I do not mean to sound disrespectful, but could we have human-language</span><br><span>summaries of press releases in the future? From what I can decipher,</span><br><span>governments want more control over the internet, we don't, we won this</span><br><span>time, but we have to continue the fight. Right?</span><br><span></span><br><span>It took me, like, fifteen minutes to figure this out and I gotta get</span><br><span>up in seven hours to go on live radio to talk about e-voting security</span><br><span>after a local Pirate Party activist stole a public computer from the</span><br><span>parliament building hoping to uncover secret documents proving that</span><br><span>e-voting is rigged and then three weeks later walked into a newspaper</span><br><span>office with it, having not found anything, and is now missing and</span><br><span>wanted by the police, with the computer, and the Pirate Party refuses</span><br><span>to kick him out.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Here's a photo of him with the famous computer:</span><br><span><a href="http://boards.chan.ee/b/src/1368653567180.jpg">http://boards.chan.ee/b/src/1368653567180.jpg</a></span><br><span></span><br><span>Anyway, it would save me some time in the future.</span><br><span></span><br><span>And my actual point is that if we want to engage people, then we need</span><br><span>to communicate in a way that people understand. Considering that</span><br><span>English is not the native language of the vast majority of us, this is</span><br><span>doubly important.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Best,</span><br><span>Elver</span><br><span></span><br><span><a href="mailto:elver.loho@gmail.com">elver.loho@gmail.com</a></span><br><span>+372 5661 6933</span><br><span>skype: elver.loho</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 16 May 2013 23:56, Wende Cover <<a href="mailto:cover@isoc.org">cover@isoc.org</a>> wrote:</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>ITU World Telecommunication Policy Forum Closes Focused on Continuing Open</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Dialogue</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>[Geneva, Switzerland - 16 May 2013] – Today, the World Telecommunication</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Policy Forum (WTPF) came to a close with robust debate among all</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>stakeholders about the role of government in Internet governance.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Throughout the meeting, the Internet Society participated in dialogue that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>focused on several key areas, including the significant role of Internet</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>exchange points as a means of enhancing Internet connectivity, the need for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>timely deployment of IPv6, and the importance of the multi-stakeholder model</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>of Internet governance.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Six opinions were drafted by a WTPF Informal Experts Group and submitted to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the meeting, addressing topics such as capacity building, IP addressing, and</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Internet governance. These Opinions were discussed among all participants:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ITU member states and sector members, civil society organizations, and other</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>key international stakeholders. The inclusion of stakeholders assisted in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>broadening the discussion to allow for a more inclusive dialogue. As a</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>result, a vigorous debate related to the role of governments in the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>multi-stakeholder model exhibited the importance of continued discussions in</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>a variety of fora.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>“This week’s dialogue was a significant step forward,” said Lynn St. Amour,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Internet Society President and Chief Executive Officer. “We know that the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>multi-stakeholder model has served the Internet and individuals across the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>world extraordinarily well, leading to innovations and infrastructure</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>development that may not have come about with a top-down model. We welcome</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>this open dialogue and hope these discussions continue over the coming</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>months at forums such as the Commission on Science and Technology for</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Development and the Internet Governance Forum in order that all voices are</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>heard.”</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>The Internet Society is a global, nonprofit organization dedicated to an</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>open Internet for everyone. The Internet Society is a strong advocate of the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>multi-stakeholder model of Internet governance because it is the heart of</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the Internet’s architectural foundation and has proven to be the best way to</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>ensure that the benefits of the Internet are available to all. Experience</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>shows that public policy processes that draw from a base of community</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>expertise are most effective in creating the environment in which Internet</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>development and access can flourish.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>To read the Internet Society submission to the WTPF, visit:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/doc/contribution-itu-2013-world-telecommunicationict-policy-forum">http://www.internetsociety.org/doc/contribution-itu-2013-world-telecommunicationict-policy-forum</a>.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Chapter Portal (AMS): <a href="https://portal.isoc.org">https://portal.isoc.org</a></span><br></blockquote><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed</span><br><span>to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society</span><br><span>Chapter Portal (AMS): <a href="https://portal.isoc.org">https://portal.isoc.org</a></span><br><span></span><br><span></span><br><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed</span><br><span>to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society</span><br><span>Chapter Portal (AMS): <a href="https://portal.isoc.org">https://portal.isoc.org</a></span><br><span></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>