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    <font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Thank you, Rudi.<br>
      I've used the email address you suggested, and have asked the
      questions through it. Hope to see them posted, and answered.<br>
      <br>
      v.<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/14/2013 11:52, Rudi Vansnick
      wrote:<br>
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      type="cite">Dear Veni, Alejandro,
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      <div>Is in execution, message will go out soon ...</div>
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                  class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">Rudi
                  Vansnick</span></font></div>
            <div><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Arial"><span
                  class="Apple-style-span" style="font-size: 13px; ">2013
                  ISOC Elections Committee chair<br>
                  Member Board of Trustees Internet Society<br>
                  <br>
                  Mobile +32/(0)475/28.16.32 - Tel +32/(0)9/329.39.16<br>
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          <div>Op 14-mei-2013, om 17:42 heeft Veni Markovski het
            volgende geschreven:</div>
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                started this in an email thread, but someone suggested
                it, while we are waiting to hear from the Election
                Committee. Yes, please, forward this question to the
                others.<br>
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                v.<br>
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              <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/14/2013 11:39, Dr.
                Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote:<br>
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                  Narelle,
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                  <div>Rudi, other members of the Elections Committee:
                    can you help make that happen?</div>
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                  <div>Yours,</div>
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                  <div>Alejandro Pisanty<br>
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                          en nombre de Ricardo Holmquist [<a
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                          <b>Enviado el:</b> martes, 14 de mayo de 2013
                          10:26<br>
                          <b>CC:</b> Chapter Delegates; ISOC Chapter
                          Support<br>
                          <b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates]
                          Invitation to vote in the 2013 ISOC BoT
                          Chapter election<br>
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                                <div>Narelle,<br>
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                                thanks you very much for your answers.<br>
                                <br>
                                As for the other candidates, can we hear
                                from you?. It is particularly important
                                beeing in countries like mine to hear
                                your views in this matter.<br>
                                <br>
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                              regards<br>
                              <br>
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                            Ricardo Holmquist<br>
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                          ISOC Venezuela<br>
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                          <div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/14 Narelle
                            Clark President ISOC-AU <span dir="ltr">
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                              On Mon, May 13, 2013 5:50 pm, Veni
                              Markovski wrote:<br>
                              > Hi, Narelle.<br>
                              > Some natural questions for the
                              candidates to be Trustees:<br>
                              ><br>
                              > We'd like to hear the views of the
                              candidates about the desire of the<br>
                              > ITU to have an increased role and
                              control mechanisms over the Internet.<br>
                              > Also, on the ITU relations with ISOC.
                              ISOC is a sector member of the<br>
                              > ITU-T and ITU-D. What's in it for
                              ISOC? Who benefits more - ISOC or ITU,<br>
                              > or both equally?<br>
                              <br>
                              It certainly appears that the ITU has been
                              attempting to impose controls<br>
                              over the Internet, and it is completely
                              certain that some members of the<br>
                              ITU are trying to impose controls that are
                              antithetical to ISOC, and are<br>
                              making those attempts through the ITU
                              forums. I have actively campaigned<br>
                              against the imposition of a number of
                              those controls within my own<br>
                              country, and will continue to do so in
                              that capacity. I also believe that<br>
                              ISOC shares the same goals as I.<br>
                              <br>
                              ISOC's position, however, needs to be
                              distinctively nuanced and to work<br>
                              the diplomatic avenues thoroughly and
                              effectively. It is my personal view<br>
                              that we need to stay at the ITU table on
                              the basis that the ITU is a<br>
                              United Nations body, and I actually
                              persist with the hope that the UN can<br>
                              be effective. I believe we need to stay
                              engaged with governments (in<br>
                              general) in order to obtain the best
                              result for the Internet overall.<br>
                              There are potentially times when we will
                              need to walk away from the ITU<br>
                              (and goevernment) discussions also, but at
                              this stage I do not believe we<br>
                              are at that point. The next 12 or so
                              months may change my view.<br>
                              <br>
                              As far as who is getting the greater
                              benefit - this is a difficult measure<br>
                              to make - at this stage the ITU seems to
                              be getting a significant benefit.<br>
                              There is certainly the risk that our
                              altruism may be overly tested,<br>
                              however if it increases our positive
                              engagement at the local level for<br>
                              chapters in their respective countries,
                              then I am happy for that to be the<br>
                              case. Indeed I would be proud if that
                              turned out to be the case. We are a<br>
                              worthwhile organisation and achieve
                              worthwhile things.<br>
                              <br>
                              I don't believe we are overly adding to
                              the credence of the ITU by being<br>
                              there - as I said, this is a UN body, and
                              that has weight.<br>
                              <br>
                              It also seems to me that the ITU still
                              performs valuable work in the<br>
                              ITU-R, and in some aspects of the ITU-D
                              (eg OSS) but I would very much<br>
                              like to see better participation, a
                              reduction in the barriers to<br>
                              participation, and better delineation from
                              other standards bodies,<br>
                              especially the IETF. The precise aspects
                              of my view on the latter is best<br>
                              discussed within the appropriate IETF
                              collaboration forums, too.<br>
                              <br>
                              [In my moments where I believe that
                              humanity has a hope of survival, the<br>
                              United Nations, or some form thereof, is
                              still in existence! Call me an<br>
                              idealist.]<br>
                              <br>
                              I hope this helps.<br>
                              <br>
                              best regards<br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              Narelle<br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              --<br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              Narelle Clark<br>
                              President<br>
                              Internet Society of Australia<br>
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Best, 
Veni Markovski
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