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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Thank you, Rudi.<br>
I've used the email address you suggested, and have asked the
questions through it. Hope to see them posted, and answered.<br>
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v.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/14/2013 11:52, Rudi Vansnick
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<div>Op 14-mei-2013, om 17:42 heeft Veni Markovski het
volgende geschreven:</div>
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started this in an email thread, but someone suggested
it, while we are waiting to hear from the Election
Committee. Yes, please, forward this question to the
others.<br>
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v.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/14/2013 11:39, Dr.
Alejandro Pisanty Baruch wrote:<br>
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<div>Rudi, other members of the Elections Committee:
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<b>Enviado el:</b> martes, 14 de mayo de 2013
10:26<br>
<b>CC:</b> Chapter Delegates; ISOC Chapter
Support<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates]
Invitation to vote in the 2013 ISOC BoT
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thanks you very much for your answers.<br>
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As for the other candidates, can we hear
from you?. It is particularly important
beeing in countries like mine to hear
your views in this matter.<br>
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regards<br>
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Ricardo Holmquist<br>
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ISOC Venezuela<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/14 Narelle
Clark President ISOC-AU <span dir="ltr">
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On Mon, May 13, 2013 5:50 pm, Veni
Markovski wrote:<br>
> Hi, Narelle.<br>
> Some natural questions for the
candidates to be Trustees:<br>
><br>
> We'd like to hear the views of the
candidates about the desire of the<br>
> ITU to have an increased role and
control mechanisms over the Internet.<br>
> Also, on the ITU relations with ISOC.
ISOC is a sector member of the<br>
> ITU-T and ITU-D. What's in it for
ISOC? Who benefits more - ISOC or ITU,<br>
> or both equally?<br>
<br>
It certainly appears that the ITU has been
attempting to impose controls<br>
over the Internet, and it is completely
certain that some members of the<br>
ITU are trying to impose controls that are
antithetical to ISOC, and are<br>
making those attempts through the ITU
forums. I have actively campaigned<br>
against the imposition of a number of
those controls within my own<br>
country, and will continue to do so in
that capacity. I also believe that<br>
ISOC shares the same goals as I.<br>
<br>
ISOC's position, however, needs to be
distinctively nuanced and to work<br>
the diplomatic avenues thoroughly and
effectively. It is my personal view<br>
that we need to stay at the ITU table on
the basis that the ITU is a<br>
United Nations body, and I actually
persist with the hope that the UN can<br>
be effective. I believe we need to stay
engaged with governments (in<br>
general) in order to obtain the best
result for the Internet overall.<br>
There are potentially times when we will
need to walk away from the ITU<br>
(and goevernment) discussions also, but at
this stage I do not believe we<br>
are at that point. The next 12 or so
months may change my view.<br>
<br>
As far as who is getting the greater
benefit - this is a difficult measure<br>
to make - at this stage the ITU seems to
be getting a significant benefit.<br>
There is certainly the risk that our
altruism may be overly tested,<br>
however if it increases our positive
engagement at the local level for<br>
chapters in their respective countries,
then I am happy for that to be the<br>
case. Indeed I would be proud if that
turned out to be the case. We are a<br>
worthwhile organisation and achieve
worthwhile things.<br>
<br>
I don't believe we are overly adding to
the credence of the ITU by being<br>
there - as I said, this is a UN body, and
that has weight.<br>
<br>
It also seems to me that the ITU still
performs valuable work in the<br>
ITU-R, and in some aspects of the ITU-D
(eg OSS) but I would very much<br>
like to see better participation, a
reduction in the barriers to<br>
participation, and better delineation from
other standards bodies,<br>
especially the IETF. The precise aspects
of my view on the latter is best<br>
discussed within the appropriate IETF
collaboration forums, too.<br>
<br>
[In my moments where I believe that
humanity has a hope of survival, the<br>
United Nations, or some form thereof, is
still in existence! Call me an<br>
idealist.]<br>
<br>
I hope this helps.<br>
<br>
best regards<br>
<br>
<br>
Narelle<br>
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Internet Society of Australia<br>
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