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this in an email thread, but someone suggested it, while we are
waiting to hear from the Election Committee. Yes, please, forward
this question to the others.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/14/2013 11:39, Dr. Alejandro
Pisanty Baruch wrote:<br>
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<div>Rudi, other members of the Elections Committee: can you
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[<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>] en nombre de
Ricardo Holmquist [<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rihogris@gmail.com">rihogris@gmail.com</a>]<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> martes, 14 de mayo de 2013 10:26<br>
<b>CC:</b> Chapter Delegates; ISOC Chapter Support<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] Invitation to
vote in the 2013 ISOC BoT Chapter election<br>
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thanks you very much for your answers.<br>
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As for the other candidates, can we hear from
you?. It is particularly important beeing in
countries like mine to hear your views in this
matter.<br>
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regards<br>
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Ricardo Holmquist<br>
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ISOC Venezuela<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/14 Narelle Clark
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On Mon, May 13, 2013 5:50 pm, Veni Markovski wrote:<br>
> Hi, Narelle.<br>
> Some natural questions for the candidates to be
Trustees:<br>
><br>
> We'd like to hear the views of the candidates
about the desire of the<br>
> ITU to have an increased role and control
mechanisms over the Internet.<br>
> Also, on the ITU relations with ISOC. ISOC is a
sector member of the<br>
> ITU-T and ITU-D. What's in it for ISOC? Who
benefits more - ISOC or ITU,<br>
> or both equally?<br>
<br>
It certainly appears that the ITU has been
attempting to impose controls<br>
over the Internet, and it is completely certain that
some members of the<br>
ITU are trying to impose controls that are
antithetical to ISOC, and are<br>
making those attempts through the ITU forums. I have
actively campaigned<br>
against the imposition of a number of those controls
within my own<br>
country, and will continue to do so in that
capacity. I also believe that<br>
ISOC shares the same goals as I.<br>
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ISOC's position, however, needs to be distinctively
nuanced and to work<br>
the diplomatic avenues thoroughly and effectively.
It is my personal view<br>
that we need to stay at the ITU table on the basis
that the ITU is a<br>
United Nations body, and I actually persist with the
hope that the UN can<br>
be effective. I believe we need to stay engaged with
governments (in<br>
general) in order to obtain the best result for the
Internet overall.<br>
There are potentially times when we will need to
walk away from the ITU<br>
(and goevernment) discussions also, but at this
stage I do not believe we<br>
are at that point. The next 12 or so months may
change my view.<br>
<br>
As far as who is getting the greater benefit - this
is a difficult measure<br>
to make - at this stage the ITU seems to be getting
a significant benefit.<br>
There is certainly the risk that our altruism may be
overly tested,<br>
however if it increases our positive engagement at
the local level for<br>
chapters in their respective countries, then I am
happy for that to be the<br>
case. Indeed I would be proud if that turned out to
be the case. We are a<br>
worthwhile organisation and achieve worthwhile
things.<br>
<br>
I don't believe we are overly adding to the credence
of the ITU by being<br>
there - as I said, this is a UN body, and that has
weight.<br>
<br>
It also seems to me that the ITU still performs
valuable work in the<br>
ITU-R, and in some aspects of the ITU-D (eg OSS) but
I would very much<br>
like to see better participation, a reduction in the
barriers to<br>
participation, and better delineation from other
standards bodies,<br>
especially the IETF. The precise aspects of my view
on the latter is best<br>
discussed within the appropriate IETF collaboration
forums, too.<br>
<br>
[In my moments where I believe that humanity has a
hope of survival, the<br>
United Nations, or some form thereof, is still in
existence! Call me an<br>
idealist.]<br>
<br>
I hope this helps.<br>
<br>
best regards<br>
<br>
<br>
Narelle<br>
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Internet Society of Australia<br>
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