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the controversy and have responded at
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.w3.org/QA/2013/03/drm_and_the_open_web.html">http://www.w3.org/QA/2013/03/drm_and_the_open_web.html</a></span> </span><br>
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<p style="margin-left: 15px; margin-right: 25px; color: rgb(51, 68, 74);
font-family: 'Gill Sans','Gill Sans MT','Trebuchet MS',sans-serif;
font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 19px; text-align: start;
text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal;
word-spacing: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span>There's
been lots of buzz about the proposed addition of "<a
href="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media.html"
title="http://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-media/raw-file/tip/encrypted-media/encrypted-media.html"
style="color: rgb(0, 90, 156); text-decoration: underline;">Encrypted
Media Extensions</a>" to HTML5, and the related extension of the<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="http://www.w3.org/html/wg/charter/2012/"
title="http://www.w3.org/html/wg/charter/2012/" style="color: rgb(0, 90,
156); text-decoration: underline;">HTML5 Working Group charter</a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>to include support for "protected
content." In the wake of the<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Feb/0122.html"
title="http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-admin/2013Feb/0122.html"
style="color: rgb(0, 90, 156); text-decoration: underline;">announcement</a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>that these are "in-scope" for
HTML, we wanted to explain what this means -- and doesn't mean -- for
W3C and the Open Web.<span><br>
</span></span></p>
<p style="margin-left: 15px; margin-right: 25px; color: rgb(51, 68,
74); font-family: 'Gill Sans', 'Gill Sans MT', 'Trebuchet MS',
sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal;
font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 19px; orphans:
auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none;
white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px;
-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><span><span></span></span>W3C is
not developing a new DRM system, nor are we embracing DRM as an
organization. We do acknowledge that some in industry demand content
protection and that DRM use is currently widespread. We also know that
others find DRM anathema to the Open Web. In building the Open Web, we
do not equate "open" content with material that must be available free
of charge.</p>
<p style="margin-left: 15px; margin-right: 25px; color: rgb(51, 68, 74);
font-family: 'Gill Sans', 'Gill Sans MT', 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;
font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 19px; orphans: auto;
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Given
these competing demands, W3C is convening people with a range of
viewpoints to investigate how to keep the Web maximally open (for
instance, consistent with the W3C Royalty-Free Patent Policy) and to
help us determine how content protection can interact with the Open Web.
We invite those who are interested in the technical discussions about
Encrypted Media Extensions to monitor or participate in the<span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="http://www.w3.org/html/wg/#who"
title="http://www.w3.org/html/wg/#who" style="color: rgb(0, 90, 156);
text-decoration: underline;">HTML Working Group</a>, which is open to
all. That specification will undergo the same technical review and
interoperability testing as other W3C specifications on the
Recommendation Track.</p><p style="margin-left: 15px; margin-right:
25px; color: rgb(51, 68, 74); font-family: 'Gill Sans', 'Gill Sans MT',
'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif; font-size: 16px; font-style: normal;
font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal;
line-height: 19px; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px;
text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing:
0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;
background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">To help crystallize the technical
discussions around Encrypted Media and DRM, we're opening a new
Restricted Media Community Group specifically to consider the paired
challenges of openness and access-restriction. As a growing number of
industries with current requirements related to content protection are
embracing the Open Web Platform, we seek a solution that considers both
today's business and technical realities and the long-term health of the
Web. The<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/"
title="http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/" style="color: rgb(0, 90, 156);
text-decoration: underline;">Web and TV Interest Group</a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>is another place where these
conversations happen, in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page#Task_Forces"
title="http://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page#Task_Forces"
style="color: rgb(0, 90, 156); text-decoration: underline;">task forces</a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>producing requirements documents.
The CG does not intend to develop specifications, although it might
approach requirements documents from a user perspective.</p><p
style="margin-left: 15px; margin-right: 25px; color: rgb(51, 68, 74);
font-family: 'Gill Sans', 'Gill Sans MT', 'Trebuchet MS', sans-serif;
font-size: 16px; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight:
normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: 19px; orphans: auto;
text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;
-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">Join
us at<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a
href="http://www.w3.org/community/restrictedmedia" title="Restricted
Media CG" style="color: rgb(0, 90, 156); text-decoration: underline;">restrictedmedia</a><span
class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>to continue the discussion.</p> </span><br>
Observationally this could be interpreted as an attempt to square a
circle. But that view is hopefully unfair.<br>
<br>
<br>
Christian <br>
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<font color="#9FA2A5"><span style="padding-left:6px">19 April 2013
09:33</span></font></div></div></div>
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__pbrmquotes="true" class="__pbConvBody"><div>This is worth unpicking.<br><br>I
am only involved as a user in this area (developing media services and<br>sites).
I am not involved in W3C activities around this myself. I am not<br>planning
to implement browser based DRM.<br><br>As I understand the background
at this time and hoping somebody will<br>speak up who is involved in the
w3C working groups who can guide on the<br>implications of how this is
being implemented.<br><br>HTML5 is adding some media features such as
audio and video tags. The<br>idea is as you design your webpage you can
insert these tags around a<br>media object and this will provide a
player for the user to directly<br>access the content (video or audio)
without calling in a third party<br>plug in such as Flash or Silverlight
in the browser. This simplifies as<br>it standardises access to digital
media in web browsers.<br><br>The DRM issue being complained about is
separate from the codecs that<br>process the media (play). The choice of
a codec or codecs has been<br>highly contentious in terms of patent
coverage so that playing content<br>can be open (free to all). Google
has assured use of a codec and there<br>has been much negotiations going
on behind the scenes to make this<br>possible. This covers Rights to
the 'means' to play content<br><br>But for managing the rights to the
content itself some content providers<br>(mainly distributors like
NetFlix) are saying they will not use HTML5<br>media tags for their
content unless they can impose DRM on their content.<br><br>W3C is
discussing this in the context of supporting DRM in the browser.<br>The
implications of this would appear to impose DRM on content that is<br>presented
via the browser directly.<br><br>I would prefer myself, that any DRM
functionality that content<br>distributors wish to implement is managed
via a plug in architecture<br>rather than intrinsic to the browser
functionality. Otherwise free<br>content which is the vast bulk of
content as I understand it today<br>should not be defaulted through a
DRM filter intended for some<br>(significant) commercial corner cases.<br><br>This
would add some extra complexity and cost for those businesses that<br>wish
to impose DRM on content but presumably the cost is worth the<br>effort.
By implementing in the browser it would seem the cost is being<br>passed
on to the browser (in added complexity and processing). I'm not<br>clear
why the cost of doing business for a few should be passed on to<br>users
and content providers not interested in DRM. That is the many.<br><br><br>best<br><br><br><br><br>Christian<br><br><br><br><br><br></div></div>
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<div>I have received a call to join a protest in <a
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<div>This would be against some goings-on in the W3C that the authors of
the protest calls "Hollyweb".</div>
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<div>Can anyone more knowledgeable help understand what this is and
whether we should try to intervene?</div>
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