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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-NZ link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>+1 from the Pacific as well…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Carlos Vera Quintana<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 18 March 2013 4:41 p.m.<br><b>To:</b> Ernesto cruz<br><b>Cc:</b> ISOC Chapter Delegates<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] Funding and a modest proposal for chapters and events<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Another +1 how can we influence on this?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Carlos<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>El 18/03/2013, a las 20:30, Ernesto cruz <<a href="mailto:ernesto@onelinkpr.net">ernesto@onelinkpr.net</a>> escribió:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Well said... +1<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Ernesto Cruz<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>ISOC Puerto Rico<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span>Sent from my iPhone</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On Mar 15, 2013, at 1:18 AM, Dave Burstein <<a href="mailto:daveb@dslprime.com">daveb@dslprime.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Folks</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> What would happen if ISOC shifted 10% of its current budget to low cost local initiatives (as suggested) and modest transportation reimbursements to members for international events? </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> I bet the result would be far more bang for the buck than the same money spent on staff and the current travel expenses. Think how much the chapters could achieve with a few hundred thousand, much less 10% of the $30M ISOC budget. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> Currently, ISOC is spending several million dollars each year supporting the chapters. It's in the budget as "internal communications" and dozens of other titles, as well as those specifically assigned to regional/chapter work. Folks like Paul Brigner and Sally Wentworth are knocking themselves out to help the chapters. This isn't a criticism of their efforts. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> The current system has a place, but is brutally expensive. It appears a few hundred people are "active volunteers" in ISOC, although overall events pull more. That means we're currently spending several thousand per active volunteer. I think if some of that centrally spent money went directly to chapter expenses, the results could be extraordinary.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> How can we make this happen? One possibility is not to hire for the senior economics advocate currently listed as an open job, which is budgeted at several hundred thousand dollars. There is no shortage of economic analysis from ISOC's allies in policy and one more economist will add little to the discussion. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> Think how much more that money could do build the chapters and the direct international work of ISOC members. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> Let's find a way. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Dave Burstein</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>p.s. <i><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>How I calculate that ISOC is spending several million on member and chapter support. </span></i><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>The work of supporting them is shared among a few dozen people. When you think of the percent of the time of regional directors, more senior people, communications people, and their support and supervisory staff, it's easily 10-15 "full-time equivalents," some paid in the six figures. Alternately, if you assume that 20% of ISOC's effort is aimed at the chapters, that's $6M/year. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> I'm not disagreeing with spending the money on chapter support; instead, I'm suggesting some be spent by the chapters locally, efficiently and in small amounts.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> Much better results per dollar if done well, I think.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> <br clear=all></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <br>Editor, DSL Prime, Fast Net News, Net Policy News and A Wireless Cloud<br>Author with Jennie Bourne DSL (Wiley, 2002) and Web Video: Making It Great, Getting It Noticed (Peachpit, 2008) <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed<br>to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society<br>Chapter Portal (AMS): <a href="https://portal.isoc.org">https://portal.isoc.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>As an Internet Society Chapter Officer you are automatically subscribed<br>to this list, which is regularly synchronized with the Internet Society<br>Chapter Portal (AMS): <a href="https://portal.isoc.org">https://portal.isoc.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>