<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Well said...+1.<br><br><div>Ernesto</div><div>ISOCPR </div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">Sent from my iPhone</span></div></div><div><br>On Mar 12, 2013, at 11:12 AM, John More <<a href="mailto:morej1@mac.com">morej1@mac.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1">David<div><br></div><div>Your comments are right on point. The DC Chapter makes a a fair amount happen with minimal resources (but benefitting from being able to tap into the folks at Reston who have been very helpful). </div><div><br></div><div>I believe that a major focus for ISOC should be how to acquire the funding for active Chapters -- with the ultimate purpose of having a part- or full-time paid staffer who has received ISOC training. My experience in activist organizations, which ISOC needs to be to protect the Internet, is that a trained paid staffer can make all the difference for volunteers (who do have to earn a living). Of course, there also needs to be a budget for ancillary expenses.</div><div><br></div><div>Structuring such a system worldwide would be complicated because of local laws and economies, but for some Chapters where there are inadequate local resources such support could be especially significant.</div><div><br></div><div>It is important, however, that local Chapters raise funds themselves (unless somehow forbidden by local law). It is an iron rule for a truly successful organization that everyone has to contribute something (even if small financially). Otherwise, there is no true ownership. This is where ISOC Global can provide help and guidance (as it has been doing already to some extent).</div><div><br></div><div>John More</div><div>DC Chapter</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:38 AM, David Solomonoff <<a href="mailto:president@isoc-ny.org">president@isoc-ny.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">
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An ongoing concern for the NYC Chapter - and for me personally as
my day job will be ending in a year due to a combination of office
politics and downsizing of public universities and medical
facilities in NY.<br>
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I work in an IT capacity so I sometimes can get professional leave
for ISOC-related activities. I think a lot of the most active
volunteers have day jobs closely related to the ISOC mission so
they can get at least some time off, travel expenses, etc. for
their volunteer efforts.<br>
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The problem here is twofold:<br>
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<li>We (thinking of the NY Chapter but I'm sure other Chapters
as well) still don't have enough active members to cover every
aspect of the ISOC mission. More collaboration between
Chapters on regional and global issues would allow for pooling
of resources, a more unified voice and less reinventing the
wheel.<br>
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<li>We aren't making an effective outreach beyond the immediate
tech community. Even the startup community in NYC tends to
take Net access for granted and doesn't give much thought to
how public policy decisions affects them. And many people who
are politically active and fairly tech saavy have no interest
or understanding of the issues we're concerned about.</li>
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We're caught in a situation where it's hard to do stuff, recruit
volunteers and do all appropriate publicity, documentation and
record-keeping. One aspect is always going to get short-changed.
Happily I think we make the right choice and focus on making
things happen.<br>
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But we need to have a much higher public profile. This requires
paid, full-time staff who can recruit and mentor volunteers who in
turn may eventually wish to make a full-time commitment.<br>
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I understand that this is currently beyond the financial (and
current staff) resources of the global organization. In addition,
the Chapters are closer to the ground in terms of local issues and
concerns so they can do this better if they have more direct
control of resources.<br>
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What I'd like to see - and this hasn't happened yet - is for the
global development team to work with Chapters to find new sources
of funding. I'm sure there are a lot of creative ways to do this I
haven't thought of.<br>
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On 03/11/2013 10:48 AM, Elver Loho wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">Hi everyone,
Dealing with everyday chapter issues takes a lot of time and effort.
Last week I was sitting on the council of the Data Protection
Inspectorate discussing legislation regarding personal data. Today I
was at the parliament's constitutional commission discussing Open Data
implementation. Preparing for these meetings, taking part, and later
reporting to the board and members takes a full day's work for each
event. And we haven't yet figured out how to fund such activities.
Can anyone shed some light on how day-to-day funding has been resolved
at your chapter?
I'd like to hear about workable funding models, which would let us
keep 2-3 salaried positions. Running all of this for no salary for
over two years has been highly successful (NGO of the year 2012,
prevented ACTA from being signed, biggest peaceful public protest in
the country's history, helped create the best law of 2012 bringing
Open Data into Estonian legislation, etc.), but I'm also broke right
now and have no medical insurance, so, yeah... It's probably not a
sustainable model of getting things done. And donations simply don't
work in a small country like Estonia.
Best,
Elver Loho
Estonia Chapter
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+372 5661 6933
skype: elver.loho
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