<div dir="ltr">Here is a good instance where there could be an opportunity for "high level engagement" on access - the FCC's Lifeline program.. <a href="http://isoc-ny.org/p2/4634">http://isoc-ny.org/p2/4634</a><div>
<br><div class="gmail_extra">Why, one wonders, is only $14m of the saved $210m available for Broadband projects? What is the future of the Lifeline as/if the PSTN is deregulated? </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">j</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:36 PM, Joly MacFie <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com" target="_blank">joly@punkcast.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">There are limitations to what any one organization can do. <div>
<br></div><div>ISOC's most important role, and original raison d'etre, is to be an organizational parent to the IETF and the IAB. From that grew roles in development and policy.The pillars were defined in the late 90s. In recent years the maintenance of Open InternetWorking the multistakeholder Internet model has become paramount.</div>
<div><br></div><div>While at the Chapter level individuals gather together to get active on whatever is their passion. It is important that at the global and regional level that the Internet Society make a priority of high-level engagement of stakeholders to promote its principles.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Universal access has always been one of those principles.</div><div><br></div><div>j</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 12:01 PM, David Solomonoff <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:president@isoc-ny.org" target="_blank">president@isoc-ny.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div>This is a great discussion and I'd just
like to add a couple of small points:<br>
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Based on my experience lobbying for a large labor union here in
the US (United University Professions) I would say that to
effectively advocate both at the regional and national level, ISOC
NA must:<br>
<ol>
<li>Develop a larger pool of active members</li>
<li>Probably have additional paid staff whose single task is
community organizing. How this is funded and whether these
people would be employees of the global organization or local
Chapters is open to discussion.<br>
</li>
<li>Have a consistent policy position and up-to-the-second
talking points about all related issues</li>
<li>Share contact info regarding legislators and news media</li>
<li>Share info regarding relationships, conversations, etc. so
that people don't tread on each others toes</li>
<li>Have a strategy involving getting the active members
contacting legislators and media IMMEDIATELY whenever an issue
comes up with a consistent position using consistent language
and talking points</li>
</ol>
This is how all effective advocacy groups work - I don't think
there are any shortcuts.<br>
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On the technical side we can work with other groups (like
NYCWireless in NYC) to promote community networks and open source
DIY solutions. As I've said before I don't think we should bet the
farm on any particular "perfect" one-size-fits-all technology -
rather act as an educational resource for all solutions.<br>
<br>
A lot of other open source groups here in NYC organize hackfests
where they help people install Linux on their PC's. ISOC Chapters
could certainly do the same for wifi mesh routers and the like.<br>
<br>
Also, perhaps ISOC could also look into IXP's in rural,
underserved areas in the US like upstate New York?<div><div><br>
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On 12/21/2012 06:05 AM, JOHN MORE wrote:<br>
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<div>I think you make a very good point. I would note there are
many local efforts in the US to increase access (reduce costs)
from neighborhood networks. Gene Gaines, a member of the Greater
Washington DC Chapter, has created a program of providing used
laptops to all students from poorer families in his county on
Virginia coupled with significantly lower internet rate from
Comcast. The North American Bureau could take a lead in
focusing on the issue of universal (=affordable) access.</div>
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<div>John More</div>
<div>Washington DC</div>
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<div>On Dec 21, 2012, at 5:58 AM, Norbert Klein <<a href="mailto:nhklein@gmx.net" target="_blank">nhklein@gmx.net</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<div>I don't think many would suggest ISOC-NA is not
serving as "a focal point for cooperative efforts to
promote the Internet as a positive tool to benefit all
people throughout the world." Of course, there is
always more to do and more issues to cover.</div>
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<div> <span style="border-collapse:separate;border-spacing:0px">Best regards,<br>
Paul Brigner<br>
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Regional Bureau Director, North America<br>
Internet Society<br>
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"The Internet is for Everyone"</span><br>
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<p style="margin-bottom:0.5cm">Interesting discussion.
“...there is always more to do and more issues to cover”
- sure, but that does not pick up the core of the
question: What is the plan of the North American ISOC
Regional Bureau to achieve this in the USA?</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0.5cm">This reminds me of a
period of long and intensive discussion twenty or so
years ago in Germany related to “international
development,” where some wanted to limit this discourse
to “international development aid abroad” as "a really
important issue" - while others insisted that a
discussion of the complex problem of international
economic imbalance has to include a discussion of the
internal powers at play at home.</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0.5cm">Is it possible to
understand - and act - on international dynamics without
tackling similar scenarios and challenges and conflicts
also at home?</p>
<p style="margin-bottom:0.5cm">Norbert Klein<br>
Cambodia</p>
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