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    Paul,<br>
    <br>
    I was looking through the Society's mission statement for something
    that indicated a desire to promote universal service; and that
    bullet point in conjunction with the "internet is for everyone"
    vision seemed to cover it. But perhaps universal service is not part
    of ISOC's mission.<br>
    <br>
    Be that as it may, to my mind universal service should be a
    fundamental part of the New York Internet Society's mission. But if
    it's not, we residents need another organization to lead in
    achieving that important task. <br>
    <br>
    Best,<br>
    <br>
    Tom Lowenhaupt<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/20/2012 4:32 PM, Paul Brigner
      wrote:<br>
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      <div>I don't think many would suggest ISOC-NA is not serving as
        "a focal point for cooperative efforts to promote the Internet
        as a positive tool to benefit all people throughout the world."
         Of course, there is always more to do and more issues to cover.</div>
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        <span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate;
          border-spacing: 0px; ">Best regards,<br>
          Paul Brigner<br>
          <br>
          Regional Bureau Director, North America<br>
          Internet Society<br>
          <br>
          "The Internet is for Everyone"<br>
          <br>
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        <div>On Dec 20, 2012, at 4:27 PM, Thomas Lowenhaupt <<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:toml@communisphere.com">toml@communisphere.com</a>>
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          <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#CCCCCC"> Dave,<br>
            <br>
            "The Internet is for everyone" is the Internet Society's <a
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              href="http://www.internetsociety.org/who-we-are/mission">vision</a>.
            And bullet 7 of its Mission explains that to achieve this
            vision the Society,<br>
            <ul>
              <li>Serves as a focal point for cooperative efforts to
                promote the Internet as a positive tool to benefit all
                people throughout the world.</li>
            </ul>
            So what's the plan to achieve this here in the U.S.?<br>
            <br>
            Best,<br>
            <br>
            Tom Lowenhaupt<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/20/2012 2:51 PM, Dave
              Burstein wrote:<br>
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              type="cite"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">On the NY
                ISOC list, Thomas writes </font>
              <div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br>
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              <div><span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">"Here's

                  the vision thing. What would have happened if I'd have
                  said</span><br
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                <span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">something

                  like,</span><br
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                <br
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                <span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> 
                  * ISOC-NY advocates for universal access to a quality
                  Net experience</span><br
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                <span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> 
                    for every New Yorker. We believe every resident
                  should have Internet</span><br
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
                <span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> 
                    access with enough speed that it enables them to
                  fully participate</span><br
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                <span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> 
                    in deciding upon and receiving government services."</span></div>
              <div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br>
                </font></div>
              <div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">I just spent two
                  weeks in Dubai where ISOC had strong opinions on how
                  poor countries should bring down costs. I wanted to
                  cry out "Physician heal thyself" because the increases
                  in U.S. costs lately have been unconscionable.
                  Verizon's fees start at $55 as far as I can tell (only
                  1 megabit!)and for most in NYC (FiOS territory) the
                  minimum is over $78. The standard service at Time
                  Warner cable is $58. I just doublechecked those prices
                  with the companies.</font></div>
              <div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br>
                </font></div>
              <div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">    That's much
                  higher than the $20-45 that was a common  fee in years
                  past. Verizon by most measures is up 50-100%, Time
                  Warner 20%. All this at a time the cost to deliver the
                  service is going down. (Routers, modems, capex of the
                  companies, even support, as I've reported elsewhere).</font></div>
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              <div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> 
                   Before that, I was at ECTA Brussels where speaker
                  after speaker pointed out European prices are often
                  half what the Americans charge for similar. That's
                  slightly exaggerated but the gap is clear. </span></div>
              <div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
                </span></div>
              <div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">   It's
                  time to start working - hard - to make sure the
                  Internet is affordable to Americans. Otherwise, our
                  advice to the Africans is hollow. </span></div>
              <div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
                </span></div>
              <div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">   How
                  do we turn around ISOC to start doing something about
                  prices going up in America.</span></div>
              <div> <span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
                </span></div>
              <div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">db</span></div>
              <div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
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              <div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">p.s. I
                  cc'd this directly to Paul, North American ISOC rep.
                  As a former Verizon employee, he knows they are
                  looking to maximize profits so of course take
                  advantage of weak competition. He and Sally have done
                  a great job bringing the chapters and members into the
                  ISOC discussion. They also have been doing a great job
                  getting the telcos involved in ISOC. It's particularly
                  difficult for ISOS to get involved in bringing
                  affordability to the U.S., but that's what we need to
                  do.</span></div>
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