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<div>it will be a sight to see if we can get all chapters from the "poor South" support you... certainly beyond the urban cores and way into the countryside, mountains, plains, deserts and swamps of the US. </div>
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<div>We should all keep an eye open globally again in this endeavour. I'm finding echoes of lobbying made globally and resounding locally. We have the ETNOs of the world and their member telcos pushing their anti-neutrality, pro-double-profit agendas in every
country and we also see initiatives for things like white spaces. </div>
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<div>As became clear for WCIT, we in ISOC must have a clear view of whose interests will benefit from our actions based on principles and be ready both to ride along uncomfortable allies and to cut our links with them when interest tries to override principle.
It was a difficult act in WCIT and it won't become any simpler.</div>
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<div>Yours,</div>
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<div>Alejandro Pisanty<br>
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<b>Enviado el:</b> jueves, 20 de diciembre de 2012 14:41<br>
<b>Hasta:</b> Dave Burstein<br>
<b>CC:</b> ISOC Chapter Delegates; bod@lists.isoc-ny.org<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] Why is ISOC is doing almost nothing to bring affordable Internet to America<br>
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<div>Hi Dave,</div>
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<div>Thanks for your comments. Many members in the NY Chapter have raised this issue with me. I will forward your note to our Public Policy team and start a discussion internally on how ISOC can work on this topic.</div>
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"The Internet is for Everyone"<br>
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<div>On Dec 20, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Dave Burstein <<a href="mailto:daveb@dslprime.com" target="_blank">daveb@dslprime.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34); font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:12.800000190734863px; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">"Here's the vision thing. What would have happened if I'd have said</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34); font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:12.800000190734863px; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34); font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:12.800000190734863px; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">something like,</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34); font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:12.800000190734863px; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
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<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34); font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:12.800000190734863px; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> * ISOC-NY advocates for universal access to a quality Net experience</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34); font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:12.800000190734863px; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34); font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:12.800000190734863px; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> for every New Yorker. We believe every resident should have Internet</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34); font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:12.800000190734863px; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34); font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:12.800000190734863px; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> access with enough speed that it enables them to fully participate</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34); font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:12.800000190734863px; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34); font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:12.800000190734863px; background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"> in deciding upon and receiving government services."</span></div>
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<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">I just spent two weeks in Dubai where ISOC had strong opinions on how poor countries should bring down costs. I wanted to cry out "Physician heal thyself" because the increases in U.S. costs lately have been unconscionable.
Verizon's fees start at $55 as far as I can tell (only 1 megabit!)and for most in NYC (FiOS territory) the minimum is over $78. The standard service at Time Warner cable is $58. I just doublechecked those prices with the companies.</font></div>
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<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"> That's much higher than the $20-45 that was a common fee in years past. Verizon by most measures is up 50-100%, Time Warner 20%. All this at a time the cost to deliver the service is going down. (Routers, modems, capex
of the companies, even support, as I've reported elsewhere).</font></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> Before that, I was at ECTA Brussels where speaker after speaker pointed out European prices are often half what the Americans charge for similar. That's slightly exaggerated but the gap is clear. </span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> It's time to start working - hard - to make sure the Internet is affordable to Americans. Otherwise, our advice to the Africans is hollow. </span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> How do we turn around ISOC to start doing something about prices going up in America.</span></div>
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<div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">p.s. I cc'd this directly to Paul, North American ISOC rep. As a former Verizon employee, he knows they are looking to maximize profits so of course take advantage of weak competition. He and Sally have done
a great job bringing the chapters and members into the ISOC discussion. They also have been doing a great job getting the telcos involved in ISOC. It's particularly difficult for ISOS to get involved in bringing affordability to the U.S., but that's what we
need to do.</span></div>
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