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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Colleagues,<br>
when I moved to NY 7 years ago, I was shocked to see there are
only 2 ISPs for 7 million people.<br>
There are 2000 ISPs in Bulgaria, for the same number of people.<br>
<br>
And prices? It costs $ 15 (one, five) for 100 Mbps, or 1000 Mbps
(1 Gbps) in Bulgaria. And it costs $ 50 / 3 Mbps in NY. We used
these in a number of publications, and interviews <br>
<br>
Come on! <br>
<br>
I blogged about it: </font><br>
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best,<br>
veni<br>
<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 12/20/2012 15:41, Paul Brigner
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Dave,</div>
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<div>Thanks for your comments. Many members in the NY Chapter
have raised this issue with me. I will forward your note to
our Public Policy team and start a discussion internally on how
ISOC can work on this topic.</div>
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<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate;
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-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width:
0px; font-size: medium; ">Best regards,<br>
Paul Brigner<br>
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Regional Bureau Director, North America<br>
Internet Society<br>
<br>
"The Internet is for Everyone"<br>
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<div>On Dec 20, 2012, at 2:51 PM, Dave Burstein <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:daveb@dslprime.com">daveb@dslprime.com</a>>
wrote:</div>
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<blockquote type="cite"><font face="verdana, sans-serif">On the
NY ISOC list, Thomas writes </font>
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<div><span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">"Here's
the vision thing. What would have happened if I'd have
said</span><br
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<span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">something
like,</span><br
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<br
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<span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
* ISOC-NY advocates for universal access to a quality Net
experience</span><br
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<span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
for every New Yorker. We believe every resident should
have Internet</span><br
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<span
style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">
access with enough speed that it enables them to fully
participate</span><br
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<span
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in deciding upon and receiving government services."</span></div>
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<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">I just spent two weeks
in Dubai where ISOC had strong opinions on how poor
countries should bring down costs. I wanted to cry out
"Physician heal thyself" because the increases in U.S.
costs lately have been unconscionable. Verizon's fees
start at $55 as far as I can tell (only 1 megabit!)and for
most in NYC (FiOS territory) the minimum is over $78. The
standard service at Time Warner cable is $58. I just
doublechecked those prices with the companies.</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"> That's much higher
than the $20-45 that was a common fee in years past.
Verizon by most measures is up 50-100%, Time Warner 20%.
All this at a time the cost to deliver the service is
going down. (Routers, modems, capex of the companies, even
support, as I've reported elsewhere).</font></div>
<div><font face="verdana, sans-serif"><br>
</font></div>
<div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> Before
that, I was at ECTA Brussels where speaker after speaker
pointed out European prices are often half what the
Americans charge for similar. That's slightly exaggerated
but the gap is clear. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> It's time
to start working - hard - to make sure the Internet is
affordable to Americans. Otherwise, our advice to the
Africans is hollow. </span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"> How do we
turn around ISOC to start doing something about prices
going up in America.</span></div>
<div>
<span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">db</span></div>
<div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br>
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<div><span style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">p.s. I cc'd
this directly to Paul, North American ISOC rep. As a
former Verizon employee, he knows they are looking to
maximize profits so of course take advantage of weak
competition. He and Sally have done a great job bringing
the chapters and members into the ISOC discussion. They
also have been doing a great job getting the telcos
involved in ISOC. It's particularly difficult for ISOS to
get involved in bringing affordability to the U.S., but
that's what we need to do.</span></div>
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