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<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 21, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:apisan@unam.mx" target="_blank">apisan@unam.mx</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>a government order to ISPs to block something sounds like a ZSDOS, a Zero-Sofistication Denial of Service. Question for your concern about DNSSEC (which I find of second order of importance, but of course valid) will be how the ISPs obey the order and
for that, how eagerly they exert efforts to comply with it.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>In Pakistan, perhaps also in India, ISPs may not have the freedom to overlook / protest a Government directive unless there is an overwhelming pressure by the users on the ISPs to protest. I find it difficult to assume that the ISPs find it convenient to comply with such Government directives. Often the compliance arises out of an inability to protest.</div>
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<div>BTW BytesForAll is already providing some advice for circumventing the blockade; I don't know that this in turn won't cause more active policing against TOR and other measures.</div>
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<div>In parallel, the discussions of the Internet Governance Caucus have turned to this issue. They were concerned with the new incarnation of the IBSA proposal, the proposal now called CIRP, pushed by the government of India, to which Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
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<div>The Twitter filtering in Pakistan puts the CIPR model to one more test and, IMO, it should have to be the final blow, as I don't think anyone believes that an organism like that would agree to force all member governments, and in consequence all governments,
to Internet freedoms like not filtering a communication tool like Twitter in such a blunt way for a whole country.</div>
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<b>Enviado el:</b> domingo, 20 de mayo de 2012 10:05<br>
<b>Hasta:</b> President ISOC Cambodia<br>
<b>CC:</b> Asia-Pacific Chapters; Chapter Delegates<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] Twitter officially banned in Pakistan - more to follow<br>
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<div>Plenty of reaction on twitter: <a href="https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23pakistan" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23pakistan</a> and
<a href="https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23twitterban" target="_blank">https://twitter.com/#!/search/%23twitterban</a> including proxy info
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<div>While ISOC might hesitate as a body to issue an immediate policy statement, there is nothing to stop individual members or even chapters from joining in the chorus of criticism.</div>
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<div>My initiial response was to refer back to the ISOC statement issued at the time of the Egyptian thing -
<a href="http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=1712" target="_blank">http://isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=1712</a> but that addresses specifically a general cutoff</div>
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<div>One wonders how the ban is being enforced technically and if it messes with standards such as DNSSEC.</div>
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I got this text down here from Fouad Bajwa. As many of you know, Fouad Bajwa is a Member of a Global ISOC Facilities Committee and was recently also at the Geneva meetings.<br>
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Does ISOC Global, or the affected Regional Bureaus, have any procedures or suggestions for such a case?<br>
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<pre>Twitter.com is used by the Civil Society and Citizens of Pakistan to
express their personal thoughts and opinions and the total blanket
shutdown of Twitter.com is a fundamental human right violation
preventing Pakistani Citizens both online and offline to express
themselves using the Internet through their personal computers and
mobile phone devices. Authorities are restricting access to
Twitter.com without consulting the citizens of Pakistan through
multistakeholder processes.
STILL TWEETING THROUGH <a href="http://LINKEDIN.COM" target="_blank">LINKEDIN.COM</a><span><font color="#888888">
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