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On 03/25/2012 01:35 AM, John More wrote:
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type="cite">Veni
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<div>To the contrary, the "idea" is not bad, but the sequence is.
<big><b>Either in an LoA or in the bylaws</b></big>, the
responsibilities of the Chapters and a means for resolving them
(or in the unlikely possibility of revoking a Chapter's charter)
should be set forth. <b>No organization can afford to have
rogue chapters.</b> I assume you do not believe there should
be no control.</div>
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<div>John</div>
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<big><b>"Either in an LoA or in the bylaws" </b>- this is one of
the problems, that the LoA draft started to be discussed publicly,
while there were hints that a Bylaws revision is going on
somewhere and we will be surprised when we see it. A kind of
"rogue" procedure.</big><br>
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<big><b>"BTW can you ask all Chapter-elected Trustees to
participate?"</b> I am not surprised that Alejandro asked this
question. But I am surprised that it is necessary to ask this
question - while we are having this very serious discussion since
weeks and months.</big> <br>
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<big><big><b>"</b></big><b>No organization can afford to have rogue
chapters."</b> Sure. And no organization can have "rogue"
structures, where it is not sure if Joly's definition of "ISOC
Global" carries the day, or if the LoA which is speaking a lot of
unilateral "control" without appeal procedures and not much
clarity when there is silence further "up."<br>
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I cannot help to feel so much similarity in this process: Our
constitution says that the country is a "multi-party liberal
democratic regime guaranteeing human rights and the respect of
law" - no, we don't believe "there should be no control</big><big><big>.</big>"
But asking serious, detailed questions - just to take the example
of the many questions raised related to INET Geneva - and not
hearing much coming back, while the trade show preparation is
proceeding, where supposedly "everybody can participate" as we
were told. But why should we, given the still vague orientation of
the program.<br>
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Norbert Klein<br>
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with greetings from Cambodia - we still exist as a Chapter; maybe
we should not have started one, while we thought that ISOC is a
fellowship of mutual concern.<br>
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