Just to address your exact point. The Internet Society of China has never, to my knowledge represented itself as ISOC China, it is known by the acronym ISC. It is the representative association of the mainland Chinese Internet community both organizational and individual.
<a href="http://www.isc.org.cn/english/About_Us/Bylaw/">http://www.isc.org.cn/english/About_Us/Bylaw/</a><div><br></div><div>According to published figures, as such, they thus represent just over 25% of the Internet's 2 Billion users. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Similarly, going to Veni's point, I think we can recognize that the ITU is a legitimate representative of global telecommunications interests, both governmental and industry. And also that the NTIA, by virtue of its geographic and historical role, is also a major stakeholder. Both less independent perhaps than the the ISC.</div>
<div><br></div><div>I remember how much wailing and gnashing there was when the ITU failed to accord the Internet Society, ICANN etc the equivalent respect. Well, perhaps somewhat reluctantly, they have come around. Both the NTIA and ISC have vocally advocated for the multistakeholder model (despite, in the latter case, what they actually mean being up to interpretation).</div>
<div><br></div><div>The role of the Internet Society has ever been to promote intercourse between the all stakeholders. "the Internet is for everyone." As we reach this major landmark it only makes sense to gather those stakeholders together and make clear from the outset that we mean to involve all as we reflect on the past and move forward.</div>
<div><br></div><div>It's shockingly small minded that some here might suggest the ISC be denied their place just because of the organization's name is confusing, or that their operational standards are at odds with our own.</div>
<div><br></div><div>j</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 23, 2012 at 5:43 PM, John More <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:morej1@mac.com">morej1@mac.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Fully understood. Not a question of blame,but of clarity.<br>
<br>
But it would seem to me to be important that such unaffiliated "ISOC" be identified as such. And, if they would consider entering into a relationship that supported the Internet Society's basic principles, they could be treated as "associates". Could be a loose or close association. Appears to me that we re in loose association with ISOC China, which is good. Anyway, just a thought for a long-range strategy and continued dialogue.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
John More<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
On Feb 23, 2012, at 5:09 PM, <a href="mailto:gajewski@isoc.org">gajewski@isoc.org</a> wrote:<br>
<br>
> Dear Joly and John,<br>
><br>
><br>
>> Joly: It's not a Chapter. It's an independent Society. In a sovereign nation.<br>
><br>
>> John: To the contrary. They use the ISOC name.<br>
><br>
> The problem is that ISOC does not have an exclusive right to use the name "Internet Society" (it is registered as ownership of ISOC only in very few countries). World-wide there are several examples of NGOs named " 'country name' Internet Society" or "Internet Society of 'country name'" which are not Chapters of ISOC... They named themselves so because "Internet Society" is simply a natural name for an NGO related to Internet and in most cases they cannot be blamed for uzurpation of ISOC ownership.<br>
><br>
> With best regards,<br>
> Jacek<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>---------------------------------------------------------------<br>Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 Skype:punkcast<br>WWWhatsup NYC - <a href="http://wwwhatsup.com" target="_blank">http://wwwhatsup.com</a><br>
<a href="http://pinstand.com" target="_blank">http://pinstand.com</a> - <a href="http://punkcast.com" target="_blank">http://punkcast.com</a><br> VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - <a href="http://isoc-ny.org" target="_blank">http://isoc-ny.org</a><br>
--------------------------------------------------------------<br>-<br>
</div></div>