<div><font color="#333333"><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Hello,</font></font></font></div><div><font color="#333333"><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="verdana, sans-serif">In addition to what I have shared already on the list:</font></div>
<div><font color="#333333"><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#333333"><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif">In its early years ISOC had a lot of limitations. Trustees and Chapter Leaders of the early days of ISOC were the pillars who built up ISOC which has grown to be an organization of the size and resources as we see today. ISOC is celebrating its 20th year as an organization that has gone past its initial years of struggle. It naturally becomes an occasion to invite all its former Trustees and former Chapter Leaders, with all arrangements made for their travel, stay and participation. This event needs to be like a big fat wedding with a thorough list of invitees, past and present.</font></font></font></div>
<div><font color="#333333"><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></font></font></div><div>Sivasubramanian M</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Borka Jerman Blazic <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:borka@e5.ijs.si" target="_blank">borka@e5.ijs.si</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hi,<br>
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I do agree with the sent comments of my colleagues. <br>
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My additional comment address the "establishers" of ISOC. <br>
<br>
It is a general practice that the people<br>
that established and launched a society as it was the case with
the the Internet Society in Kobe at the INET conference in 1992<br>
together with Vint Cerf and the other first members of ISOC (I am
sure that the archive of<br>
people that were present and become members is available)<br>
to be invited. Usually, other societies in such anniversaries are
promoting the first members that<br>
established the Society and continued to be active in the Society
for 20 years as Members of Honour.<br>
<br>
Maybe the current staff in ISOC offices is not aware of that fact!<br>
<br>
I was among those in INET 1992 in Kobe and I was present at the
meeting when Internet Society was launched. <br>
<br>
With regards,<br>
<br>
Borka Jerman-Blazic<br>
<br>
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Dne 24.1.2012 12:13, piše philip fomba johnson:
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<div><span>I do agree with my colleagues that Chapter
leaders need to attend the Special Event. </span></div>
<div><span>Philip F. Johnson</span></div>
<div><span>President, ISOC Liberia</span></div>
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<div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Daniel
Stern <a href="mailto:danielrstern@gmail.com" target="_blank"><danielrstern@gmail.com></a><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Veni
Markovski <a href="mailto:veni@veni.com" target="_blank"><veni@veni.com></a> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
<a href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a> <br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:18 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
Re: [Chapter-delegates] Special Invitation to Global
INET 2012<br>
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<div>Hi All,
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<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">I
confess I have not been keeping up with the posts so
please excuse me if my remarks may be redundant
or inappropriate. </font></div>
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<div>I heartily agree with Veni. I had been
championing the cause of the chapters going way back
to when ISOC's leadership did not seem to understand
the importance of the tole that chapters had to play,
sometimes having confront them at a public meeting
during an INET, which I did on several occasions over
the years. And I have written to Ted and others of
ISOC's leadership how I have been heartened by the
support chapters have been given recently. (I am part
of the Uganda ISOC chapter team.)</div>
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<div>I'd say that if ISCO could pronounce that any
chapter members who can organize their own travel and
accommodation would be welcomed to INET as a delegate,
without having to pay a conference fee, no limitation
on numbers. I think it would go a long way towards
reinforcing chapter members' sense of belonging to the
ISOC family. ISOC could also assist those who require
a visa by offering to send a formal letter of
invitation where necessary.</div>
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<div>Hope this helps.</div>
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<div>Kind regards, Daniel</div>
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2012 at 12:41 PM, Veni Markovski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:veni@veni.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">veni@veni.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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- some light on this question.<br>
I got an email that the invitation was sent to me as
a former Board of Trustees member. Needless to say,
this wasn't in the invitation, as you all saw it. <br>
However, to respond to some of the off-the-list
emails - <br>
<br>
I wrote to ISOC that I wouldn't mind joining the
INET in Geneva, <b>if the invitation was going out
to all current members of ISOC, or at least
chapter presidents and trustees. </b><br>
I also noted that this is important for me, because
I was a Trustee, elected by chapters, and I would
have liked to see this invitation as a sign that
ISOC finally has recognized the importance of the
chapters, which elected me, and not the importance
of the Trustees.<br>
<br>
I know it may sound naive, but many of you here
remember the time, when we were struggling to
persuade ISOC that it has to work closely with the
chapters, and it should recognize the importance of
the chapters, and of the fact that they, the
chapters, bring legitimacy to the organization. <br>
<br>
I hope you would agree with me that chapters should
have been given special treatment at this special
INET, with at least allowing their officers to
participate free at the INET (although, given the
tens of millions of USD that ISOC is spending, I
would argue that a free admission for everyone in
Geneva would be a better investment and would have
had a great return for the organization). After all,
travel and stay in Geneva for most of the countries
of the world is a pretty expensive adventure, but
the participation fee could be used instead for
airplane ticket or hotel stay for several nights.
ISOC must show more respect towards its chapters,
many of which made the .org deal possible by
gathering support from around the planet to prove
that ISOC will be a good guardian of the public
interest, if they are given the management of the
.org top level domain. <br>
<br>
best,<br>
veni
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23, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Veni Markovski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:veni@veni.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">veni@veni.com</a>></span>
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I am not sure if this is for chapter
presidents, or how I was selected to be
invited, but thought that in the light of
what we discussed earlier on our list, it is
important to find out how these invitations
are being sent. I certainly hope that they
are not coming as a response to our comments
in the list.<br>
Perhaps Ted could also tell us how come?<br>
<br>
best,<br>
veni
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-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: Special Invitation to
Global INET 2012<br>
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:24:01 -0500
(EST)<br>
From: <a href="mailto:lynn.st.amour@isoc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lynn.st.amour@isoc.org</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:veni@veni.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">veni@veni.com</a><br>
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Dear Mr. Markovski,<br>
<br>
To commemorate the Internet Society's
20th anniversary in 2012, we are hosting
an international conference, Global INET
2012, in Geneva, Switzerland from 22-24
April.<br>
<br>
As a vital player in the Internet
ecosystem, and a partner in our 20 year
shared history, I would like to extend
a special invitation to attend the
Global INET 2012.<br>
<br>
Please take a moment to review the
attached invitation. I hope you will be
able to join us in Geneva.<br>
<br>
With best regards,<br>
<br>
Lynn St. Amour<br>
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