<div><font color="#333333"><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif">Hello,</font></font></font></div><div><font color="#333333"><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></font></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#333333" face="verdana, sans-serif">In addition to what I have shared already on the list:</font></div>
<div><font color="#333333"><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></font></font></div><div><font color="#333333"><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif">In its early years ISOC had a lot of limitations. Trustees and Chapter Leaders of the early days of ISOC were the pillars who built up ISOC which has grown to be an organization of the size and resources as we see today. ISOC is celebrating its 20th year as an organization that has gone past its initial years of struggle. It naturally becomes an occasion to invite all its former Trustees and former Chapter Leaders, with all arrangements made for their travel, stay and participation. This event needs to be like a big fat wedding with a thorough list of invitees, past and present.</font></font></font></div>
<div><font color="#333333"><font><font face="verdana,sans-serif"><br></font></font></font></div><div>Sivasubramanian M</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote">

On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Borka Jerman Blazic <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:borka@e5.ijs.si" target="_blank">borka@e5.ijs.si</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">



  
    
  
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    Hi,<br>
    <br>
    I do agree with the sent comments of my colleagues. <br>
    <br>
    My additional comment address the "establishers" of ISOC. <br>
    <br>
    It is  a general practice that  the people<br>
    that established and launched  a society as it was  the case with
    the the Internet Society in Kobe at the INET conference in 1992<br>
    together with Vint Cerf and the other first members of ISOC (I am
    sure that the archive of<br>
    people that were present and become members  is  available)<br>
    to be invited. Usually, other societies in such anniversaries are
    promoting the first members that<br>
    established the Society and continued to be active in the Society
    for 20 years as Members of Honour.<br>
    <br>
    Maybe the current staff in ISOC offices is not aware of that fact!<br>
    <br>
    I was among those in INET 1992 in Kobe and  I was present at  the
    meeting when Internet Society was launched.  <br>
    <br>
    With regards,<br>
    <br>
    Borka Jerman-Blazic<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    Dne 24.1.2012 12:13, piše philip fomba johnson:
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        <div><span>I do agree with my colleagues that Chapter
            leaders need to attend the Special Event. </span></div>
        <div><span>Philip F. Johnson</span></div>
        <div><span>President, ISOC Liberia</span></div>
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            <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Daniel
                Stern <a href="mailto:danielrstern@gmail.com" target="_blank"><danielrstern@gmail.com></a><br>
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Veni
                Markovski <a href="mailto:veni@veni.com" target="_blank"><veni@veni.com></a> <br>
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Cc:</span></b>
                <a href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a> <br>
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
                Tuesday, January 24, 2012 10:18 AM<br>
                <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
                Re: [Chapter-delegates] Special Invitation to Global
                INET 2012<br>
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            <div>Hi All,
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                <div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">I
                    confess I have not been keeping up with the posts so
                    please excuse me if my remarks may be redundant
                    or inappropriate. </font></div>
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                <div>I heartily agree with Veni.   I had been
                  championing the cause of the chapters going way back
                  to when ISOC's leadership did not seem to understand
                  the importance of the tole that chapters had to play,
                  sometimes having confront them at a public meeting
                  during an INET, which I did on several occasions over
                  the years.  And I have written to Ted and others of
                  ISOC's leadership how I have been heartened by the
                  support chapters have been given recently.  (I am part
                  of the Uganda ISOC chapter team.)</div>
                <div><br>
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                <div>I'd say that if ISCO could pronounce that any
                  chapter members who can organize their own travel and
                  accommodation would be welcomed to INET as a delegate,
                  without having to pay a conference fee, no limitation
                  on numbers.  I think it would go a long way towards
                  reinforcing chapter members' sense of belonging to the
                  ISOC family.  ISOC could also assist those who require
                  a visa by offering to send a formal letter of
                  invitation where necessary.</div>
                <div><br>
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                <div>Hope this helps.</div>
                <div><br>
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                <div>Kind regards, Daniel</div>
                <br>
                <div>On Tue, Jan 24,
                  2012 at 12:41 PM, Veni Markovski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:veni@veni.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">veni@veni.com</a>></span>
                  wrote:<br>
                  <blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid">Hi, everyone
                    - some light on this question.<br>
                    I got an email that the invitation was sent to me as
                    a former Board of Trustees member. Needless to say,
                    this wasn't in the invitation, as you all saw it. <br>
                    However, to respond to some of the off-the-list
                    emails - <br>
                    <br>
                    I wrote to ISOC that I wouldn't mind joining the
                    INET in Geneva, <b>if the invitation was going out
                      to all current members of ISOC, or at least
                      chapter presidents and trustees. </b><br>
                    I also noted that this is important for me, because
                    I was a Trustee, elected by chapters, and I would
                    have liked to see this invitation as a sign that
                    ISOC finally has recognized the importance of the
                    chapters, which elected me, and not the importance
                    of the Trustees.<br>
                    <br>
                    I know it may sound naive, but many of you here
                    remember the time, when we were struggling to
                    persuade ISOC that it has to work closely with the
                    chapters, and it should recognize the importance of
                    the chapters, and of the fact that they, the
                    chapters, bring legitimacy to the organization. <br>
                    <br>
                    I hope you would agree with me that chapters should
                    have been given special treatment at this special
                    INET, with at least allowing their officers to
                    participate free at the INET (although, given the
                    tens of millions of USD that ISOC is spending, I
                    would argue that a free admission for everyone in
                    Geneva would be a better investment and would have
                    had a great return for the organization). After all,
                    travel and stay in Geneva for most of the countries
                    of the world is a pretty expensive adventure, but
                    the participation fee could be used instead for
                    airplane ticket or hotel stay for several nights.
                    ISOC must show more respect towards its chapters,
                    many of which made the .org deal possible by
                    gathering support from around the planet to prove
                    that ISOC will be a good guardian of the public
                    interest, if they are given the management of the
                    .org top level domain. <br>
                    <br>
                    best,<br>
                    veni
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                      <div><br>
                        <br>
                        <div>On Mon, Jan
                          23, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Veni Markovski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:veni@veni.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">veni@veni.com</a>></span>
                          wrote:<br>
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                            I am not sure if this is for chapter
                            presidents, or how I was selected to be
                            invited, but thought that in the light of
                            what we discussed earlier on our list, it is
                            important to find out how these invitations
                            are being sent. I certainly hope that they
                            are not coming as a response to our comments
                            in the list.<br>
                            Perhaps Ted could also tell us how come?<br>
                            <br>
                            best,<br>
                            veni
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                              -------- Original Message --------<br>
                              Subject:        Special Invitation to
                              Global INET 2012<br>
                              Date:   Sun, 22 Jan 2012 15:24:01 -0500
                              (EST)<br>
                              From:   <a href="mailto:lynn.st.amour@isoc.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">lynn.st.amour@isoc.org</a><br>
                              To:     <a href="mailto:veni@veni.com" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">veni@veni.com</a><br>
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                                Dear Mr. Markovski,<br>
                                <br>
                                To commemorate the Internet Society's
                                20th anniversary in 2012, we are hosting
                                an international conference, Global INET
                                2012, in Geneva, Switzerland from 22-24
                                April.<br>
                                <br>
                                As a vital player in the Internet
                                ecosystem, and a partner in our 20 year
                                shared history,  I would like to extend
                                a special invitation to attend the
                                Global INET 2012.<br>
                                <br>
                                Please take a moment to review the
                                attached invitation.  I hope you will be
                                able to join us in Geneva.<br>
                                <br>
                                With best regards,<br>
                                <br>
                                Lynn St. Amour<br>
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