<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear colleagues,<div><br></div><div>I'm just wondering if blacking out websites is a good idea. If I'm not wrong they don't harm the US by doing this. We should rather black out access to USA official sites too protest the SOPA, inverse what they want to do and use it against them. But that's also something we can not do without access providers. Thus, not feasible ! And so we are back to point zero. What can be done to stop decisions as there are : HADOPI, SOPA, ... ?</div><div><br></div><div>The initial reason of the actions has pretty much to do with criminality. The good ones pay for the actions of the bad ones and that's something that happens also outside the internet world. How to counter this is an issue that will not really be solved by SOPA and other decisions and that is what we should try to defend as position and make clear to law makers. At least that's my personal opinion.</div><div><br></div><div><div>
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<br><div><div>Op 17-jan-2012, om 07:17 heeft Dr. Alejandro Pisanty Baruch het volgende geschreven:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Dear Narelle,<br><br>this may sound unpleasant to you but... you are a Tustee, we are humble volunteers disconnected from the general strategy of ISOC.<br><br>Many of us are under pressure from Chapter members and others in our local communities to join the protest and are seen as sitting on our hands upon a block of dry ice because we are waiting for guidance from HQ.<br><br>IF the Board of Trustees is not discussing the matter as urgent - and being a former Trustee I know this can happen - and IF nobody else at "the top" has a word about the general strategy of ISOC for these fast-happening reactions, can we understand that each chapter is free to react, and will not cause even a frown from the PR apparatus of ISOC?<br><br>You may find further guidance in the word of our Chair, Raul Echeberria, in <a href="http://mexico.cnn.com/videos/2012/01/13/el-contenido-de-la-ley-sopa">http://mexico.cnn.com/videos/2012/01/13/el-contenido-de-la-ley-sopa</a>. No mention of ISOC is made, though, and he appears only as CEO of LACNIC (in Spanish).<br><br>I'm really really sorry if I appear as a nuisance. There's just an urgency to make decisions - joining the blackout is less than 24 hours away for some like... you!<br><br>Yours,<br><br>Alejandro Pisanty<br><br><br><br>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .<br> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty<br>UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico<br><br>Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732<br><br>*Mi blog/My blog: <a href="http://pisanty.blogspot.com">http://pisanty.blogspot.com</a><br>*LinkedIn profile: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty">http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty</a><br>*Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614">http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614</a><br>*Twitter: <a href="http://twitter.com/apisanty">http://twitter.com/apisanty</a><br>---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, <a href="http://www.isoc.org">http://www.isoc.org</a><br> Participa en ICANN, <a href="http://www.icann.org">http://www.icann.org</a><br>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .<br><br>________________________________________<br>Desde: <a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a> [chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org] en nombre de Narelle Clark [President@isoc-au.org.au]<br>Enviado el: lunes, 16 de enero de 2012 23:56<br>Hasta: ISOC Chapter Delegates<br>Asunto: [Chapter-delegates] English Wikipedia going dark tomorrow!<br><br>This looks like a strong protest!<br><br>Thoughts anyone?<br><br><br>To: English Wikipedia Readers and Community<br>From: Sue Gardner, Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director<br>Date: January 16, 2012<br>Today, the Wikipedia community announced its decision to black out the<br>English-language Wikipedia for 24 hours, worldwide, beginning at 05:00 UTC<br>on Wednesday, January 18 (you can read the statement from the Wikimedia<br>Foundation here). The blackout is a protest against proposed legislation<br>in the United States葉he Stop Online Piracy Act (SOPA) in the U.S. House<br>of Representatives, and the PROTECTIP Act (PIPA) in the U.S. Senate葉hat,<br>if passed, would seriously damage the free and open Internet, including<br>Wikipedia.<br><br>This will be the first time the English Wikipedia has ever staged a public<br>protest of this nature, and it痴 a decision that wasn稚 lightly made.<br>etc at<br><a href="http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout">http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/English_Wikipedia_anti-SOPA_blackout</a><br><br><br>More info on SOPA:<br>Try our Harvard colleague (Jonathan Zittrain and BoT member) who is<br>actively working on this topic:<br>http://futureoftheinternet.org/sopa-compromise<br><br>and him on Colbert talking about it:<br>http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111202/09361816954/colbert-takes-sopa.shtml<br><br><br>Cheers<br><br>N<br><br><br><br>--<br><br><br><br>Narelle Clark<br>President<br>Internet Society of Australia<br>ph: 0412 297 043<br>int ph: +61 412 297 043<br>president@isoc-au.org.au<br>www.isoc-au.org.au<br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Chapter-delegates mailing list<br>Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org<br>https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Chapter-delegates mailing list<br>Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org<br>https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates<br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>