<div style>Dear all,</div><div style><br></div><div style>In my opinion (which of course one might disagree with) it has some sort of non-sense to set up an application for the grant that is meant to send a "new" member that for example has never been to a Chapter Workshop... why I'm saying this?: well, just because of all you've said... because I believe that the Global INET was meant to enforce ISOC in all aspects. That was meant for new and future leaders as for the ones that (better or worst, much or less) have some steps walked over this streets... because as you've said, It is not a good idea (for me at least) to drive the opinion of new and future leaders with the opinion of the actual ones... and of course, the "new" ones often do not have the experience nor know the history; so It would be far better (again in my opinion) to give grants for new attendants but also for the old ones to guide and step beside the new ones. I do believe that this is not a "normal" INET meeting... Besides it has the "INET" name, is far more important than the local INET meetings we have organized and/or attended; and the same about this Chapter Meeting.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>What is more, all we know the issue about getting funding to attend this kind of meetings... where some of us live far (really far) from the place this meetings takes place (of course this is inevitable as the world has something about 12.576 Km and the meeting is Golbal). So, to pay for the round trip, the event and some other stipends costs each what?... about 3000 US$ minimum (not including the hotel in this account)? ... but the numbers will speak for their own: let's see the statistics of "country of origin" for the attendants other from the ones who got the grant, invited ones, and ISOC staff.</div>
<div style><br></div><div style>Just to clarify and make my point here, I've got nothing to say about the ISOC staff or board work itself, which I believe it's done in a very professional and efficient way.</div>
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<br></div><div style><br></div><div style>... and It's not because of the "grants", It's about all the Global INET vision, ISOC mission and Internet and ISOC's future.</div><div style><br></div><div style>
<br></div><div style>Everything else but this, sound great for me about the Global INET 2012 !</div><div style><br></div><div style>Regards,</div><div style>Nicolas</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote">
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 13:36, Veni Markovski <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:veni@veni.com">veni@veni.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Ted, and all,<br>
This sounds really good, except the fact that the Chapter workshop
seems designed in a way not to allow chapter members, and members
of the chapters' board of directors to participate. <br>
Certainly, we could have one representative from each chapter
there, but with one reminder: these people are not necessarily the
representatives of the chapters. In the case of Bulgaria, the
person who got the grant happens to be a member of the Board, but
that's probably an exception. <br>
It would have been much better for ISOC to allow all chapters'
officers to participate for free at the chapter workshop and the
INET. <br>
I am still bewildered at the participation fee for an event, which
has no program, and no speakers announced. You say it will be an
"extraordinary" event, but the only extraordinary thing so far is
the fee for members, which is much lower than for anyone else, and
since membership is free, it makes it even more extraordinary. <br>
And since you say that even if the event is 100 % sold out, the
registration fee will cover only a fraction of the price, I am
even more astonished. If that's the case (a fraction), then what's
the point in having a fee? After all, ISOC.org has tens of
millions of dollars budget every year, and it can't spend it
all... what a better expense than covering an event, and opening
it for the broader public - the same way the IGF is organized!?<br>
<br>
Best,<br>
Veni <br>
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On 1/13/2012 17:24, Ted Mooney wrote:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Dear Chapter Delegates,<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">There has been some discussion via this
list around
registration pricing for members and chapter officers
wishing to attend the
Global INET. Let me take a few sentences to review our
thought process and
opportunities for chapter members to attend.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Because we believe this will be an
extraordinary event, we
wanted the registration to be:<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Better than
market for similar events</span></font> <font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u></u><u></u></span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Reflective of
the value of the event</span></font> <font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u></u><u></u></span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Affordable by
a high percentage of those who want to participate<u></u><u></u></span></font></li>
<li class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">An
opportunity to our members and to students<u></u><u></u></span></font></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">We readily undertook a pricing model
that even if the event
was 100% sold out, that would still only cover a fraction
of the event costs.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">In addition, all of you are aware that
a Global Chapter
workshop is planned. For this workshop we are offering a
travel fellow
from every chapter which includes roundtrip airfare, room
and board for the
five days of Chapter workshop and INET and free admission
to the conference, so
long as the Travel Fellow applicant is considered a Young
Leader and
hasn’t been to an INET in the past 12 months. We expect
there will
be 100 such travel fellows. This represents a significant
investment in
our chapters for this event in addition to our other
investments for chapter
support, such as the community grants program, the
development of chapter
dashboards, and further development of the Internet
Society chapter membership
management platform and chapter guidebook.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Also, and as in the past, where there
is the possibility of
two people traveling, one a Travel fellowship recipient,
the other not, both
parties may share the same room and ISOC will incur any
additional room charges
for the length of the Workshop and INET.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">With this solid investment in the
future of the Internet for
Everyone and the Internet Society as a whole, we believe
that the current
registration pricing for the global INET is very fair and
provides all
constituents the best opportunity of participation and
value while making a
minimum contribution to support the significant costs.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">I hope this is helpful and that I will
see you at the Global
INET.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Ted<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><u></u> <u></u></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Ted Mooney</span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">Sr. Director, Membership & Services</span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial">The Internet Society</span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial"><a href="http://www.isoc.org" target="_blank">www.isoc.org</a></span></font><u></u><u></u></p>
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