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Joly,<br>
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I was thinking about a picture of Vint Cerf with a T-shirt saying
something like - IP everywhere. But my recollection might be
incorrect. <br>
<br>
My point though is the I'd hate to see the ISOC fall into a role as
TCP/IP promoter/defender, rather a thoughtful "society" that
advocates for its development in responsible ways. I realize that
it's hard to do so when 99% of the day is required to explain
thoughtless proposals by people in power that would damage it by.
But the thought has been on my mind for some time and I thought I'd
put it out there for consideration during such time as its
advancement might be practicable.<br>
<br>
Tom<br>
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On 11/25/2011 2:16 PM, Joly MacFie wrote:
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cite="mid:CAM9VJk2uDzm7WxmOqjMR4tLa68mnKehCKH-vJnNdYnq1-vnMjw@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">Hi Tom,
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<div>Concerns were raised by Vint Cerf, who originally coined the
expression - the informal credo of the Internet Society, back in
1999 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.isoc.org/isoc/media/speeches/foreveryone.shtml">http://www.isoc.org/isoc/media/speeches/foreveryone.shtml</a> and
codified in 2002 in RFC3271 <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3271.txt">http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3271.txt</a>.</div>
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<div> My comment on your "nuclear" question I would point out that
the expression is <u>not</u> "The Internet is for everything".</div>
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<div>j<br>
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On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:58 AM, Thomas Lowenhaupt <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:toml@communisphere.com">toml@communisphere.com</a>></span>
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<div bgcolor="#CCCCCC" text="#000000"> Joly,<br>
<br>
Let me begin by saying that I missed the start of the
discussion to which to responded below. But it seems close
enough to an issue I've had on my mind for some time and I
thought I'd comment, possibly forcing an inappropriate
connection. But here goes... <br>
<br>
I'm not sure I'm 100% with "The Internet is for everyone".
It reminds me of Internet everywhere. And it/they sound a
bit like the positions organizations like AAA (American
Automobile Association) and NRA take, in essence, cars and
guns everywhere.<br>
<br>
To my mind, there are better and worse uses of cars and
guns and the Internet. And I think the ISOC should weight
in here. For example, I think there is certain
infrastructure I'd like to be offline, e.g., nuclear bombs
and plants. <br>
<br>
Is there a limit to the Net? Does / should ISOC take a
position here?<br>
<br>
Tom Lowenhaupt<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 11/23/2011 2:57 PM, Joly MacFie wrote:
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 4:18
AM, Peter Koch <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:pk@isoc.de"
target="_blank">pk@isoc.de</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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I'm flabbergasted by Internet Society<br>
people jumping the bandwaggon into a walled garden.<br>
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<div>"The Internet is for everyone" means even walled
gardens. </div>
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<div>j</div>
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