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    Following Joly here - my thought was that this could be a good test
    environment for things like the Freedom Box, mesh networking, etc.<br>
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    The protesters are actually doing some software development now - I
    need to meet with them and get a better handle on what is already in
    place and what might be needed.<br>
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    My original post was sent to two organizations as well as an number
    of friends who are unaffiliated. If this is outside the ISOC
    mission, people who are sympathetic to this cause might want to get
    involved independently.<br>
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    On 9/26/11 2:20 PM, Joly MacFie wrote:
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      type="cite">Hi Eric,
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      <div>ISOC-NY's consensus would no doubt be to support protecting
        the public's right to anonymously and privately communicate. We
        have a track record of supporting such values, probably more
        than any other chapter.</div>
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      <div>You may have in mind the 2009 case where a NYC resident was
        arrested for tweeting details of Cleveland poilce movements to
        protesters.</div>
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      <div>I would here refer to "Clark Doctrine" that activity on the
        Internet should not be treated any differently than activity
        off. </div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 26, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Eric
          Burger <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:eburger@standardstrack.com">eburger@standardstrack.com</a>></span>
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            <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Are you suggesting that
              ISOC provide aid and assistance to law enforcement? In
              this case, the U.S. government is posting its information
              for everyone to see, including Occupy Wall Street
              "members." Are you suggesting we should tell the U.S.
              government to be less transparent? 
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              <div>I would offer that ISOC as a whole must not get
                directly involved with such a move, as one country's law
                enforcement is often another country's repressive
                regime. We cannot side with one government over another.
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                <div>While ISOC as a whole should not get involved with
                  such a case, I would offer it may be appropriate for
                  local Chapters to get involved with incidents of
                  interest, and ask for global help as needed.</div>
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                <div>As for this incident, would the consensus at
                  ISOC-NY be to help the local police monitor Internet
                  traffic and try to help prevent violent confrontation,
                  or for ISOC-NY to help the protesters securely
                  communicate their plans so as to be invisible to the
                  local police? Could ISOC-NY come to a consensus?</div>
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