<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br></div><div>Dear Christopher. </div><div><br></div><div>Thank you very much for your mail. </div><div><br></div><div>What you mention as "the original request" is "one request". This process was not generated specifically by that proposal. </div><div>In my view we have to revisit the issue of the membership and also give an appropriate role to the members in the bylaws. As you can see in my original email I said that there will be a consultation process for working on that. </div><div><br></div><div>So, it seems that there is not a big disagreement. Your criticism seems so to be just about the Board efficiency on working in the bylaws review. </div><div><br></div><div>In this first phase of the bylaws review we didn't deal with big changes in the structure, we were working on fixing some problems that we have identified as a consequence of the lack of a more periodic review. </div><div><br></div><div>Let's work now, after the next Board meeting (end of July in Quebec city) in discussion those other points that are more important and require a more broad discussion with the participation of ISOC members.</div><div>I hope that we can count with your contributions in that discussion. </div><div><br></div><div>Best, </div><div><br></div><div>Raúl </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div><div>El 06/07/2011, a las 04:15, Christopher Wilkinson escribió:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; ">Dear Raúl:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; ">Thankyou for this communication about the revision of the Internet Society Bylaws. It is pleasing that this overdue process is now underway.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; ">Allow me however to contribute a few comments about the content and the process.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; ">The original request for an amendment of the Bylaws was made in November 2010, following the London INET and Chapter meetings.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; ">The only request, see below, was to create a membership category for Chapters and to bring the Bylaws into line with the Articles of Incorporation regarding the voting rights of members.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; ">It now turns out - more than six months later - that the revisions proposed by the Board ad hoc committee address everything <span style="text-decoration: underline">except</span> Article V, Membership, (previously Article VI).</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; ">Structural and Membership issues are to be considered later because they require "significant input from all of ISOC’s stakeholders." If I may say so, there was time for this to have been done during the past six months. Particularly as some significant input had already been received.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; ">More specifically, I would query the proposed Article II, Section 2 Election of Trustees. (New)</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; ">This would now state that "With the exception of the President, all Trustees shall be elected or otherwise selected in accordance with the procedures set forth by a resolution of the Board".</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; ">I need not point out that this constitutes a very substantial delegation of powers to the Board of Trustees. In particular, such a resolution (depending on its scope) risks compromising ISOC's conformance to Article 5 of the Articles of Incorporation which states that " ... the qualifications and rights of the members, including any right to vote, shall be as provided in the by-laws". Indeed, the current Bylaws are not consistent with this requirement, and the proposed amendments do not address this primary "legal and governance" issue.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; ">Consequently, you may not be surprised that I express a certain disappointment as to the speed and scope of this exercise by the Board of Trustees. Also, I would be grateful if ISOC would publish the membership and participation of the Ad Hoc Committee to which you refer.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; ">WIth many thanks and best regards,</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; ">Christopher Wilkinson</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; ">Chair, Internet Society European Chapters</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; "><<a href="http://isoc-ecc.org">isoc-ecc.org</a>></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; ">Attachment:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>Message of 19 November 2010, and attachments.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 13px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 16px; "><br></div><div><div>On 30 Jun 2011, at 18:43, Raúl Echeberria wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span">Dear Chapter Delegates:</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span">As the Internet Society and the Internet environment continue to evolve, ISOC’s Board of Trustees requested a comprehensive review of the By-Laws of the organization to ensure they reflect our growing global mission and the importance of the Internet community in that mission.</font></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><font class="Apple-style-span">As the By-Laws have not had such a review in several years, we will first address updates in legal and governance procedures to ensure ISOC is in compliance with applicable corporate and tax rules. Recommendations for such updates will be made at the upcoming Board meeting by an ad hoc committee comprised of Trustees, officers, members of ISOC’s management team, and legal counsel. The recommendations to be discussed in Quebec City will not address structural issues of ISOC membership and organization, as these topics require significant input from all of ISOC’s stakeholders.</font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font class="Apple-style-span">The Board will be reaching out to all parts of the Society, including chapters, organizational members and individual members, to participate in the upcoming discussion about these structural issues later this year.</font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font class="Apple-style-span">We very much appreciate the valuable time that ISOC stakeholders will take to read, digest, consider and comment as we review our structure under ISOC’s framework of openness, innovation and inclusion.</font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><font class="Apple-style-span">For your further information, I include a helpful link to key documents to be considered by the Board of Trustees in Quebec City:</font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 63pt; "><font class="Apple-style-span">Current By-Laws of ISOC </font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 63pt; "><font class="Apple-style-span">Summary of Proposed Amendments</font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 63pt; "><font class="Apple-style-span">Proposed Amended/Restated By-Laws </font></p><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://www.isoc.org/isoc/general/trustees/bylaws_amendments.shtml"><font class="Apple-style-span">http://www.isoc.org/isoc/general/trustees/bylaws_amendments.shtml</font></a><font class="Apple-style-span"> </font></p><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span">Raúl Echeberría</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span">Chair</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span">Internet Society Board of Trustees</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><br><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><b><font class="Apple-style-span">From: </font></b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span">Christopher Wilkinson <<a href="mailto:cw@christopherwilkinson.eu">cw@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>></font></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><b><font class="Apple-style-span">Date: </font></b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span">Thu 18 Nov 2010 17:48:11 GMT+01:00</font></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><b><font class="Apple-style-span">To: </font></b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span">ISOC Chapter Support <<a href="mailto:chapter-support@isoc.org">chapter-support@isoc.org</a>></font></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><b><font class="Apple-style-span">Cc: </font></b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><font class="Apple-style-span">ECC Council <<a href="mailto:ecc-council@isoc-ecc.org">ecc-council@isoc-ecc.org</a>>, <a href="mailto:executif@wallonie-isoc.org">executif@wallonie-isoc.org</a></font></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><b><font class="Apple-style-span">Subject: </font></b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><b><font class="Apple-style-span">ISOC ByLaws - Proposed Amendments for Chapter membership</font></b></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><font class="Apple-style-span">Dear Anne Lord and colleagues:</font><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span">I recall that during the Chapters' meeting in London on 30 September during the discussion of the proposed affiliation agreement, I mentioned that it might be appropriate for the Internet Society Chapters to be formally recognised as Members of the Internet Society-</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span">On reflection, and after researching this question somewhat, it would appear to me to be rather curious, if not anomalous, that on the one hand the Internet Society Articles of Incorporation require that the voting rights of our Members should be provided for in the Bylaws (and that the Chapters do in fact elect Trustees), but that on the other hand there is no provision in the Bylaws for the membership of the Chapters, not for their voting rights.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span">I would suggest that if this situation could be rectified, it would place the discussion on the proposed affiliation agreements in a different and more appropriate and balanced perspective. (I take it that the Internet Society does not propose to enter into contractual performance agreements with e.g. the organisational members.)</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span">The necessary changes could be accomplished through very minor amendments to the Internet Society's Bylaws. I attach a short draft text to this effect.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span">I would be grateful if the Trustees and Staff of the Internet Society could give this question their attention.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span">Yours Sincerely,</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span">Christopher Wilkinson</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span">Chair, ISOC-ECC</font></div><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font><blockquote type="cite"><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br><br><br></font></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><font class="Apple-style-span"></font></div></blockquote></div></div><span><ISOC Bylaws - Chapter membership.rtf></span><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><font class="Apple-style-span"></font></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br><br><br><br><br><br></font></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div><font class="Apple-style-span"></font></div></blockquote></div></div><span><ISOC Bylaws - Chapter membership.odt></span><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><font class="Apple-style-span"></font></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div></div></blockquote></div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div></div></blockquote></div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></div><p class="MsoNormal"><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></p></div></div><font class="Apple-style-span">_______________________________________________<br>Chapter-delegates mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a><br><a href="https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates">https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates</a><br></font></blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote></div><br><div>
<span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Raul </div><div>Twitter @raulecheberria</div></div></span></span>
</div>
<br></body></html>