<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div><span>Hi Marta , Thanks for the info, Portugal did their homework just like any other member state. <br></span></div><div><span>What is interesting in Romania is that this law (and implicit the directive ) is unconstitutional.</span></div><div><span> The Directive </span><span class="yui_3_2_0_16_1309257464873133" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"> 2006/24/EC </span><span> was made before EU enlargement, Romania never voted for it , so it should be modified. <br></span></div><div><span>As a general rule , any directive declared </span><span>unconstitutional by a member state </span><span>should be modified. <br></span></div><div><span>EU is a union of sovereign states and should never act as a super-state, or it will be "the end of a beautiful friendship" , to
mis-quote from Casablanca..</span></div><div><span>Regards,</span></div><div><span>Eduard<br></span></div><div><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"><font face="Arial" size="2"><hr size="1"><b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Marta Dias <marta@fccn.pt><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Eduard Tric' <eduard.tric@isoc.ro>; 'Chapter Delegates' <chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org>; 'Frederic Donck' <donck@isoc.org>; 'Christopher Wilkinson' <cw@christopherwilkinson.eu><br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 28, 2011 4:15 PM<br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [Chapter-delegates] Isoc , Eu Directive on data retention and Romanian Law request for comments<br></font><br>
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--></style><div class="yiv1498286920WordSection1"><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">Hi,</span></div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">In Portugal Law 32/2008, transposes into national law Directive 2006/24/EC of Parliament and the Council of 15 March on the retention of data generated or processed in the context of provision of electronic communications services or of public communications networks. Under this law the operators are required to retain the data for a one year period (from the date of the conclusion of the communication).</span></div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">Best regards,</span></div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US">Marta M. Dias</span></div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"><a target="_blank" href="http://ISOC.PT">ISOC.PT</a></span></div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"> </span></div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal"><a rel="nofollow" name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;" lang="EN-US"> </span></a></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm;"><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"sans-serif";" lang="EN-US">
chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org [mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Eduard Tric<br><b>Sent:</b> terça-feira, 28 de Junho de 2011 13:51<br><b>To:</b> Chapter Delegates; Frederic Donck; Christopher Wilkinson<br><b>Subject:</b> [Chapter-delegates] Isoc , Eu Directive on data retention and Romanian Law request for comments</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal"> </div><div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">As you probably know , the Romanian Constitutional Court has declared in 2009 Unconstitional the Romanian transposition of the Eu Directive on Data retention (romanian law 298/2008). As a reminder , this directive asked to retain for 6 months (expenses paid by the operators ) any telecommunication data, including and not limited also to internet data.</span></div></div><div><div
class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">Now the romanian government decided to have a more open approach , and are asking for input from civil society. We have 2-3 weeks to make an answer that is compliant to the Directive AND to the Constitutional court decision.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">We would be happy to take on our side input from other chapters, Isoc ECC, Isoc HQ and European Bureau.</span></div></div><div><div
class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">. As it is unlikey that in Romania other organisations will respond , we see this as an opportunity for ISOC , especially in preparation for the Inet in Bucharest but also to mark a point and help to change this unuseful directive into a more citzien-oriented one. It's gonna be our first public policy-making position, so we want to be as accurate as possible.</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span
style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">Regards,</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">Eduard Tric</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">References :</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">http://www.mcsi.ro/Transparenta-decizionala</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span
style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">http://www.mcsi.ro/Transparenta-decizionala/24/ProiectRetinereaDatelor</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">http://www.mcsi.ro/Transparenta-decizionala/24/ExpunereMotive</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">Eu Directive </span><span class="yiv1498286920tpa1"><span style="color:black;">2006/24/CE with modification on </span></span><span class="yiv1498286920tpa1"><span style="color:black;" lang="RO">2002/58/CE http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32006L0024:EN:HTML </span></span><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span
style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">romanian law 298/2008 http://www.legi-internet.ro/legislatie-itc/date-cu-caracter-personal/legea-2982008-privind-pastrarea-datelor-de-trafic-informational.html </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;">Eu commision letter from 16-th of June 2011 reminding the necessity of transponding the directive </span><span class="yiv1498286920tpa1"><span style="color:black;">2006/24/CE </span></span><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;"></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1498286920MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-family:"sans-serif";color:black;"> </span></div></div><div><div
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