<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear Eric,<div><br></div><div>Firstly, thank you for the very interesting links.</div><div>I was there two days ago at the IPv6 event at the Belgian ministry of economy.</div><div>What is sure from what I've seen is that:</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>- it was a success with many internet service providers present at the event, which was sold out;</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>- there was a tribute to ISOC World for having organized the IPv6 day next week; all speakers noticed it (minister, <a href="http://DNS.BE">DNS.BE</a>, Belnet, European Commission,...)</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>- there's a big evolution in IPv6 interest in 2011 compared to 2009, due to lack of available IPv4 addresses</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>- main issue remains that dual stack approach is necessary because IPv6 is not compatible with IPv4</div><div><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>=> upgrade or replace approach is not suitable; IPv6 equipment must be added, causing a financial problem without immediate added value for the business.</div><div><br></div><div>Now, DNS registrars and ISP must support IPv6 because they don't have the choice.</div><div>Most of them will support IPv6 only when the price and issues to support IPv4 only will be higher than the cost of the dual stack IPv4/IPv6.</div><div><br></div><div>Best Regards,</div><div>Frederic.</div><div><br><div><div>Le 2 juin 2011 ΰ 12:36, <a href="mailto:et@skynet.be">et@skynet.be</a> a ιcrit :</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite">Dear all,<br>
<br>
Any initiative in that way seems to be good at first glance.<br>
<br>
Now, I just wonder whether any local effort makes any sense as long as all global equipment (at AS level and on the backbone, including all routers, DNS servers, root servers, etc.) has not yet been upgraded/replaced with IPv6 compatible/designed-for equipment...<br>
<br>
<a href="http://labs.ripe.net/Members/mirjam/images/userfiles-CAIDA-v4-v6(1).png">http://labs.ripe.net/Members/mirjam/images/userfiles-CAIDA-v4-v6(1).png</a><br>
<a href="http://www.caida.org/research/topology/as_core_network/">http://www.caida.org/research/topology/as_core_network/</a><br>
<a href="http://webilus.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/FOCUS-IPv6.png">http://webilus.fr/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/FOCUS-IPv6.png</a><br>
<a href="http://www.us.ntt.net/products/internet-access/ipv6.cfm">http://www.us.ntt.net/products/internet-access/ipv6.cfm</a><br>
<a href="http://blog.lumeta.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/ipv6_map3.jpg">http://blog.lumeta.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/ipv6_map3.jpg</a><br>
<a href="http://www.ipv6net.tn/fr/ipv6-monde.html">http://www.ipv6net.tn/fr/ipv6-monde.html</a><br>
<a href="http://ipv6.nlsde.buaa.edu.cn/morepictures.html">http://ipv6.nlsde.buaa.edu.cn/morepictures.html</a><br>
<br>
It looks to me like installing brand new telephones inside homes with lots of new functionalities, while still keeping old public switching systems in town not supporting any of these new functionalities...<br>
<br>
IMHO, it would probably be better to wait for/help the global infrastructure to be put in place at the core before implementing IPv6 services at the edge. What could Belgian ministers or companies possibly/effectively do in that direction?<br>
<br>
Eric Tomson<br>
<font size="2">Member of the Internet Society</font><br>
<font size="2">Member of the IPv6 Task Force</font><br>
<font size="2">Contributor to the IETF</font><br><br><br><br>
<hr>
<br>
Well done Rudi and ISOC Belgium, congrats!<br>
This is to be added to all the very good work done by European chapters to promote this important event.<br>
<br><br>
I would propose that we organise a call after the World IPv6 day and offer some debriefing for all of us at EU level.<br>
I'll get back to you all by the end of June. <br>
<span style="widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; font: normal normal normal medium/normal Helvetica; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; " class="Apple-style-span"><span style="widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; font: normal normal normal medium/normal Helvetica; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; " class="Apple-style-span">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span style="widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; font: normal normal normal medium/normal Helvetica; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; " class="Apple-style-span">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span style="widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; font: normal normal normal medium/normal Helvetica; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; " class="Apple-style-span">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span style="widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; font: normal normal normal medium/normal Helvetica; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; " class="Apple-style-span">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span style="widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; font: normal normal normal medium/normal Helvetica; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; " class="Apple-style-span">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span style="widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; font: normal normal normal medium/normal Helvetica; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; " class="Apple-style-span">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span style="widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; font: normal normal normal medium/normal Helvetica; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; " class="Apple-style-span">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span style="widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; " class="Apple-style-span"><span style="widows: 2; text-transform: none; text-indent: 0px; letter-spacing: normal; border-collapse: separate; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; white-space: normal; orphans: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; " class="Apple-style-span">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space">
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br><br>
Best Regards<br>
Frederic<br>
<br><br>
Frederic Donck<br>
Director European Regional Bureau<br>
Internet Society<br>
<font class="Apple-style-span" color="#540000"><font class="Apple-style-span"><br></font></font><br>
<a href="http://www.isoc.org/">www.isoc.org</a><br>
<br><br><br><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>
Le 2 juin 2011 ΰ 11:18, Rudi Vansnick a ιcrit :<br><br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
<blockquote type="cite">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space">
During 2 events in Belgium, ISOC Belgium has been promoting with success the World IPv6 day. Last week we were presenting at an event organised by Axians, company present in the Netherlands and Belgium.<br>
<br><br>
Yesterday, 1 June, our Belgian government department Economy organised a colloquium, in collaboration with ISOC Belgium and IPv6 Belgian council. In a "full house" we had the pleasure to present the event World IPv6 day in presence of the minister of economy and telecommunication as well as more than 100 top 50 company representatives.<br>
<br><br>
Website of event with list of speakers and presentations :<br>
<a href="http://economie.fgov.be/nl/modules/activity/activite_1/20110601_colloque_ipv6.jsp">http://economie.fgov.be/nl/modules/activity/activite_1/20110601_colloque_ipv6.jsp</a><br>
<br><br>
In the afternoon, at the round table meeting which we initiated end 2010, with 17 representatives of most important players in the internet world, we also had the pleasure to illustrate the importance of ISOC's activities and the role we have in the future deployment of internet policy. During this meeting we were asked to make an inventory of possible actions or best practices or even roadmaps to help business and governments to deploy IPv6 without to much risks and make it less painful. We agreed and will take up this task of course with the help of all our colleague chapters we will start a process in the next coming days to get all information gathered in one package and make a first version available on 8 June. I hope I may count on your help to get this task accomplished successfully.<br>
<br><br>
Kind regards,<br><br>
<span style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Lucida Grande'" class="Apple-style-span">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium 'Lucida Grande'; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class="Apple-style-span">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium 'Lucida Grande'; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class="Apple-style-span">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium 'Lucida Grande'; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class="Apple-style-span">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium 'Lucida Grande'; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class="Apple-style-span">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium 'Lucida Grande'; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class="Apple-style-span">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium 'Lucida Grande'; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class="Apple-style-span">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><span style="WIDOWS: 2; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; TEXT-INDENT: 0px; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; FONT: medium 'Lucida Grande'; WHITE-SPACE: normal; ORPHANS: 2; WORD-SPACING: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px" class="Apple-style-span">
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space">Rudi Vansnick<br><br>
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="'Helvetica Neue'"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 13px" class="Apple-style-span">President - CEO</span></font><br>
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3" face="Courier"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 13px" class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Menlo"><b> Internet Society Belgium </b></font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Menlo">President - CEO Tel +32/(0)9/329.39.16<br><a href="mailto:rudi.vansnick@isoc.be">rudi.vansnick@isoc.be</a> </font></span></font><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 13px" class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Menlo">Mobile +32/(0)475/28.16.32</font></span></font><br>
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 13px" class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Menlo">Dendermondesteenweg 143 B-9070 Destelbergen BELGIUM</font></span></font><br>
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 13px" class="Apple-style-span"><a href="http://www.internetsociety.be/"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Menlo">www.internetsociety.be</font></a><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Menlo"> "The Internet is for everyone"</font></span></font><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Menlo"><br></font><br>
<div style="WORD-WRAP: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space"><font class="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span style="FONT-SIZE: 13px" class="Apple-style-span"><font class="Apple-style-span" face="Menlo"></font></span></font><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Chapter-delegates mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a><br><a href="https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates">https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></blockquote><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Ecc-council mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ecc-council@isoc-ecc.org">Ecc-council@isoc-ecc.org</a><br><a href="http://isoc-ecc.org/mailman/listinfo/ecc-council_isoc-ecc.org">http://isoc-ecc.org/mailman/listinfo/ecc-council_isoc-ecc.org</a><br></div></span></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></div></span></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>