Hi all,<div><br></div><div>My two cents .... Pls send more details on the spec that you are working on to replace the AMS. Currently I mentor and manage a dynamic development team that integrates Drupal with Ruby on Rails . This is one of the largest Rails Team in India and has a experience of working on at least 3 products that made it to Tech Crunch . Rails and Drupal gives you the power of open source and leverage distributed project management with GIT and related stuff. </div>
<div><br></div><div>In any case outsourcing such development will cost you much less and save time and effort on the learning curve.</div><div><br></div><div>Good day !</div><div><br></div><div>Syed Nazir Razik</div><div>
ISOC India Chennai</div><div><br></div><div> <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 7:38 AM, Anne Lord <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:lord@isoc.org">lord@isoc.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
hi All,<br>
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I'm adding some information to this thread which I hope is useful.<br>
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The AMS is a business tool used by ISOC staff as well as Chapters, many of whom actively use it to manage their members. The Chapter portal (as part of the AMS) was always intended to be (and is being) replaced by an open source solution. This is already "work in progress" in a project called the "Engagement Platform" which is being led by Lincoln McNey . It will also support some ISOC business needs as well as those of Chapters. Right now, pieces of the Drupal-based 'Engagement Platform' are under development notably, the SAML/Shibboleth (single sign on) and authentication for membership and chapter sign up. This is a critical first step. Work on the replacement of the current chapter portal with the Drupal open source version is scheduled to begin after this piece of work is deployed (end Q3/Q4).<br>
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As before, we will be consulting with the Chapter community and asking for volunteers to help specify requirements. In fact a committee of volunteers was formed some time ago, but yes, we have not yet posted anything to the list as much work has been around the SAML/Shibboleth authentication piece. For anyone with an interest in this subject and who has some time to help as part of the committee, please contact <<a href="mailto:chapter-support@isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-support@isoc.org</a>>.<br>
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regards,<br>
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Anne<br>
btw: FYI. Alan's comments regarding his performance issues were followed up off- list by Lincoln and the AMS team.<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
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I would not put more efforts in fixing the AMS. My recommendation will be to just replace it with something more geared to today's Internet. And it will be netter if it an opensource solution.<br>
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-ed<br>
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On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 2:03 PM, Sivasubramanian M <<a href="mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com" target="_blank">isolatedn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
Dear Alan Levin<br>
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On Mon, Apr 11, 2011 at 9:26 PM, Alan Levin <<a href="mailto:alan@isoc.org.za" target="_blank">alan@isoc.org.za</a>> wrote:<br>
Hi,<br>
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Hope you're all well. Sorry for my quietness on this list, ISOC-ZA has been quiet as most users AND ISPs in SA are struggling to deal with Internet freedom in SA. Next month we will see a 1Gbps (fibre ring based) connection to businesses in the city for only $400 p.m, this is a reduction of ±98% on pricing only 3 years ago.<br>
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Just a quick note to report that previous requests in this regard have not been resolved. I understand that some issues cannot be fixed at this point as they will cost too much. I believe that the 'new' AMS is more crippled than the previous and was wondering if there is the 'open-source' effort as previously suggested?.<br>
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I participated in the AMS working group that provided all the inputs necessary for the committee that took its decision soon afterwards. While the working group was in session, I sought external opinion, as from <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/answers/technology/information-technology/databases/TCH_ITS_DBS/233725-17150723?browseIdx=17&sik=1302634093618&goback=.amq" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/answers/technology/information-technology/databases/TCH_ITS_DBS/233725-17150723?browseIdx=17&sik=1302634093618&goback=.amq</a> which generated quite a few responses. There are several open source solutions, but probably it was decided not to opt for a open source only solution due to perception of difficulties in migrating the earlier proprietary system. I don't know.<br>
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Sabrina wrote:<br>
> I can re-assure you that my colleagues from the AMS team work very hard and try to fullfill all the requests that come in. However, one size never fits all and we need to balance the needs and requirements of the majority. Not an easy job and it can leave disappointment for some. You probably know this from your own projects.<br>
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I think this is a poor response to the essential components and as suggested by Sivasubramanian:<br>
> In my communication to the ams support in the support thread I have also pointed out that these are basic features that a good software designer must have foreseen as required and must have built in as default features.