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According to the referred web page GoDaddy has not "touched
anything", so it seems the court order hit the registry, be it
PIR, or Afilias, that PIR has contracted to manage the registry,
as I understand it.<br>
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Would be good to get info from PIR. After all it is us, ISOC.<br>
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Jan<br>
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On 2011-02-02 07.36, Joly MacFie wrote:
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cite="mid:AANLkTikVsqpP5E2ryR7E0xc18tLh+k9YQqhMcAyt0c+7@mail.gmail.com"
type="cite">I'd imagine a court order to the registrar. Just how
technically a registrar bypasses a registry is a good question,
and raises contractual questions one would think.
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<div>It would be very nice to see a copy of such a court order.</div>
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<div>I recently noted comments from Michael Masnick questioning
the entire legal basis of such takedowns, as "Contributory
copyright infringement " is a civil not a criminal matter..</div>
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href="http://www.isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=1670">http://www.isoc-ny.org/p2/?p=1670</a><br>
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<div>It is plain, in the manner that such things have been done,
that they are not well thought through. The initial November
cases were quite reasonably speculated to be a hoax they were
so inept. It turned out the feds aim was making a big splash
on "Black Monday". Again, one suspects here, somebody is
trying to please some higher up who has some powerful lobby on
his back..</div>
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<div>I've cc'd Kathy Kleiman above. perhaps she can cast some
light on the .org situation.</div>
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On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Rodel Urani <span dir="ltr"><<a
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Hi,<br>
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What happened, if the registrar (Go Daddy) did nothing
(negating in the equation the participation of .ORG
operator), the USG DOJ just cut-off the domain? Where, in
the very root?<br>
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-Rodel<br>
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-----Original Message----- From: Vittorio Bertola<br>
Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 7:53 AM<br>
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Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] .org domain seized by
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Il 01/02/11 16:18, Marcin Cieslak ha scritto:<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://torrentfreak.com/us-resume-file-sharing-domain-seizures-110201/"
target="_blank">http://torrentfreak.com/us-resume-file-sharing-domain-seizures-110201/</a><br>
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This is the single best piece of advertising for
alternate root server<br>
systems that I've ever seen. Rojadirecta is one of the
most popular web<br>
services in Italy, even among non-technical people,
which are now<br>
realizing how the global DNS works and concluding that
.org names are<br>
not safe any more. By the way, Rojadirecta is
perfectly legal, unless<br>
the US get to decide what is legal and what is not for
the entire Internet.<br>
I would be curious to hear the position of ISOC on
this matter, also<br>
given that a .org domain name was involved.<br>
Ciao,<br>
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