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Hi,<br>
I want to share with you this interview Tunisian Internet Agency CEO in
Wired. Unbelievable 2 weeks ago :)<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/01/as-egypt-tightens-its-internet-grip-tunisia-seeks-to-open-up/">http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2011/01/as-egypt-tightens-its-internet-grip-tunisia-seeks-to-open-up/</a><br>
Khaled<br>
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Le 29/01/2011 23:16, Franck Martin a écrit :
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<div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">I
see Internet rights as a stop gap for "democratic countries" to avoid
their executive to be tempted in the all security fallacy. The onus is
on Developed countries to set up the bar for themselves. It needs to
come from think tanks, like EFF, IGF, and ISOC, because governments are
not very receptive to such discourse at the moment. <br>
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A new interesting debate in courts now, is about the role of the
anonymous group participants to be identified as cyber-manifestants and
not cyber-terrorists.<br>
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<div>Franck Martin<br>
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<hr id="zwchr"><b>From: </b>"Christian de Larrinaga"
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<b>To: </b>"Franck Martin" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:franck@avonsys.com"><franck@avonsys.com></a><br>
<b>Cc: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>, <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:patrick@vande-walle.eu">patrick@vande-walle.eu</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Sunday, 30 January, 2011 1:42:41 AM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Chapter-delegates] Egypt blocking Facebook
& Twitter<br>
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Incidentally I don't want to ascribe the same motives to those
promoting disconnection polices in the US, UK and similar nations to
those in countries where political censorship is the motive.
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<div>But I do think that the deep societal implications of
disconnection are not understood and the likelihood of crude
implementation of such policies will make things worse. Crude because
we do not have the policing, judicial and oversight institutions in
place to manage these things sensitively leading to inevitable
collateral damage.
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<div>On rights. </div>
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<div>Do you define and so tie up the Internet processes including
IETF, W3C with keeping innovation to what it is legally defined to be?</div>
<div>Do you by making such a definition encourage service providers
to offer services that are outside that definition so as to avoid human
rights legislation?</div>
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<div>Can you provide a right of access to unfettered communications?
(within a legal framework) when you don't have universal network
connectivity?</div>
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<div>Christian</div>
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<div>On 29 Jan 2011, at 13:15, Franck Martin wrote:</div>
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used to be an initiative from the French and Dutch government to make
the Internet an fundamental Right in a democracy... I spoke about it
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Seems ISOC HQ was not interested at the time...<br>
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<div>Franck Martin<br>
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<hr id="zwchr"><b>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Christian
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mce_href="mailto:franck@avonsys.com" target="_blank">franck@avonsys.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a
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<b>Sent:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Sunday, 30
January, 2011 1:09:05 AM<br>
<b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re:
[Chapter-delegates] Egypt blocking Facebook & Twitter<br>
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<div>It is notable that the debate politically has moved since the
banking crisis from an open Internet to domain name seizure and now
physical and signalling disconnections and not just in Egypt, but in
UK, USA, Europe and so on. </div>
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<div>The implications of damage to the economic, societal and
political life in and between countries if such a policy were to be
implemented are simply unfathomable. Perhaps the Egyptian situation may
give cause for pause. I hope so. </div>
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<div>I see from the article that Lynn is in Davos. This gives an
opportunity to press the point that such policies are liable to
increase instabilities not just locally or regionally but in the case
of US, UK and other highly connected countries globally. Egypt is not
an example to follow. It is an important message.</div>
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<div>Local disconnections imply global disconnections. It is a
foreign policy and world trade issue not simply one of internal
security.</div>
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<div>Christian</div>
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