<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">
<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"
http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">
Hi,<br>
Just to let you know some of the history : The actual minister of ICT
in Egypt has been in the ISOC Board and the Egyptian chapter has been
created before he become involved in the government. ( Lynn may correct
me if I am wrong)<br>
It is also very difficult at different level if those applied for a
chapter are working in the government or not.<br>
Khaled<br>
<br>
Le 28/01/2011 16:05, Rodel Urani a écrit :
<blockquote cite="mid:CE556F96AC7F41C28862814BC2211544@SATELLITE"
type="cite">
<meta content="text/html; charset=windows-1252"
http-equiv="Content-Type">
<div dir="ltr">
<div
style="font-family: 'Segoe UI'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 10pt;">
<div>And ISOC Chapters should not only be clearly a non-profit but
also a non-government organizations. It is fine to have colleagues
including officers from government sectors but that would not mean they
run Chapters’ the same way they want to control local telcos for
reasons. Unless ISOC missed and approved the Chapter unknowingly all
proponents are from government. How would ISOC react on it, just in
case?</div>
<div> </div>
<div
style="font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family: 'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none;">
<div
style="font-family: tahoma; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; font-size: 10pt; line-height: normal; font-size-adjust: none; font-stretch: normal; -x-system-font: none;">
<div> </div>
<div
style="background: rgb(245, 245, 245) none repeat scroll 0% 0%; -moz-background-clip: border; -moz-background-origin: padding; -moz-background-inline-policy: continuous;">
<div style=""><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="cveraq@gmail.com" href="mailto:cveraq@gmail.com">cveraq@gmail.com</a>
</div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 28, 2011 10:35 PM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true" title="joly@punkcast.com"
href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com">Joly MacFie</a> ; <a
moz-do-not-send="true" title="joly.nyc@gmail.com"
href="mailto:joly.nyc@gmail.com">joly.nyc@gmail.com</a> </div>
<div><b>Cc:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
title="chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"
href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>
</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] FW: [Egyptian chapter -
issue?]FW:Egyptblocking Facebook & Twitter</div>
</div>
</div>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div
style="font-style: normal; display: inline; font-family: 'Calibri'; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: small; font-weight: normal; text-decoration: none;">That'a
why I always propose ISOC is not for governments they are political
oriented, nor for enterprises they are commercial oriented but for
users they are rights oriented.<br>
<br>
I use to ask some similar question regarding the panama application I
guess (not users representing the proposal) but no answer was given in
list<br>
<br>
<br>
Carlos Vera<br>
Isoc Ecuador
<p>Mensaje enviado desde mi terminal BlackBerry® de Porta</p>
<hr>
<div><b>From: </b>Joly MacFie <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com"><joly@punkcast.com></a> </div>
<div><b>Sender: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:joly.nyc@gmail.com">joly.nyc@gmail.com</a> </div>
<div><b>Date: </b>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:19:50 -0500</div>
<div><b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:cveraq@gmail.com"><cveraq@gmail.com></a></div>
<div><b>Cc: </b>Constance Bommelaer<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bommelaer@isoc.org"><bommelaer@isoc.org></a>;
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org"><chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org></a></div>
<div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Chapter-delegates] FW: [Egyptian chapter -
issue?] FW: Egyptblocking Facebook & Twitter</div>
<div> </div>
AFAIK there ISOC-EGYPT is not a current chapter, but is in the
rejuvenation process.
<div> </div>
<div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/list/?status=J&view=list">http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/list/?status=J&view=list</a></div>
<div> </div>
<div>j<br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 4:21 AM, <span
dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:cveraq@gmail.com">cveraq@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"
class="gmail_quote">Ok but why its chapter delegate in Egypt is the
minister of Communication and Information Technology of a government
cutting down the Internet?<br>
<br>
<br>
Mensaje enviado desde mi terminal BlackBerry® de Porta<br>
<div class="im"><br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: "Constance Bommelaer" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:bommelaer@isoc.org">bommelaer@isoc.org</a>><br>
Sender: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a><br>
Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:58:22<br>
To: <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>><br>
</div>
<div>
<div class="h5">Subject: [Chapter-delegates] FW: [Egyptian chapter
- issue?] FW: Egypt<br>
blocking Facebook & Twitter<br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Chapter-delegates mailing list<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates"
target="_blank">https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates</a><br>
<br>
_______________________________________________<br>
Chapter-delegates mailing list<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates"
target="_blank">https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates</a><br>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<br>
<br clear="all">
<br>
-- <br>
---------------------------------------------------------------<br>
Joly MacFie 218 565 9365 <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="Skype:punkcast">Skype:punkcast</a><br>
WWWhatsup NYC - <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://wwwhatsup.com"
target="_blank">http://wwwhatsup.com</a><br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://pinstand.com" target="_blank">http://pinstand.com</a>
- <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://punkcast.com" target="_blank">http://punkcast.com</a><br>
VP (Admin) - ISOC-NY - <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://isoc-ny.org" target="_blank">http://isoc-ny.org</a><br>
---------------------------------------------------------------<br>
</div>
<p>
</p>
<hr>_______________________________________________<br>
Chapter-delegates mailing list<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a><br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates">https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates</a><br>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<pre wrap="">
<fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset>
_______________________________________________
Chapter-delegates mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates">https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates</a>
</pre>
</blockquote>
<br>
</body>
</html>