<br>Dear Friends, I would like to understand the implication of this news here<br><br>1. What happen with the application to create a chapter named ISOC Bogota? <br>2. I guess that for communication and easy understanding we call ISOC Colombia and ISOC Bogota because this last one does not exist.<br>
3. Is there some way to make a formal statement from ISOC, learning from this process, in order to work in the future with applications to form a chapter where a chapter already exists? This could includes some additional requisites and the formal position of the current chapter about the proposed new one before start the aprobation process for example? <br>
<br>About my point on 3 it would be very helpfull for the list if before any of us make a public comment on the application for the proposed ISOC Bogota chapter, we know the position of current chapter, ISOC Colombia, about this application.<br>
<br><br><br>Carlos Vera<br>ISOC Ecuador<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/9 Sebastian Bellagamba <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:bellagamba@isoc.org">bellagamba@isoc.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style="word-wrap: break-word;"><div>Dear delegates,</div><div><br></div><div>Regarding this application, I am pleased to announce that both groups of ISOC members (the ones behind ISOC Colombia and ISOC Bogota) shared a meeting today, and they started a hopefully constructive dialogue that will be bring good news to our Colombian colleagues.</div>
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<br><div><div>On 09/12/2010, at 8:27 PM:, Carlos Vera wrote:</div><br><blockquote type="cite">Estimado Carlos, sin embargo todos o el unico criterio a favor de un nuevo capitulo que expones es precisamente geografico basado en distancias y extensiones, ciudades y paises.. ESto en caso de ameritar se resuelve con secciones no con mas capitulos... <br>
<br>A nosotros nos parece razonable el analisis de la demanda real de la region, potencialidades de trabajo, recursos para operacion, voluntarios con que se cuente, proyectos propuestos, presupuestos, etc, que muestren una DIFERENCIACION REAL con el capitulo existente..y sostenibilidad para el futuro, pues la experiencia nos demuestra que la colaboracion propositiva es de lejos mejor que la competencia discursiva.<br>
<br>Carlos Vera<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/9 Carlos M. Martinez <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:carlosmarcelomartinez@gmail.com" target="_blank">carlosmarcelomartinez@gmail.com</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
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Hello all,<br>
<br>
Perhaps I am too new to ISOC, but I don't think we can reject an
application based solely on territorial overlap.<br>
<br>
While I agree that perhaps if both communities (the current chapter
and the proposed one) collaborated instead of forming a new chapter
they could perhaps achieve better results in the long run, but in
the end I don't believe that ISOC can force them to do so.<br>
<br>
Besides, Colombia is big country and Bogota is a large city.
Traveling within the country can involve plane trips or long road
ones. There can be reasons for creating city-wide chapters besides
country-wide ones.<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
<br>
Carlos Martinez<br>
ISOC Uruguay<div><div></div><div><br>
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On 12/9/10 7:51 PM, Carlos Vera wrote:
<blockquote type="cite">No estoy de acuerdo con soportar esta aplicacion<br>
<br>
En ISOC Ecuador, creemos firmemente que deben realizarse esfuerzos
importantes para sustentar el trabajo de los capitulos existentes
y que solicitudes de este tipo, cuando ISOC Colombia esta
empezando a dar sus frutos, solo desalentara a sus actores y
dispersara esfuerzos.<br>
<br>
ISOC debe mantener una politica firme de soporte al trabajo de los
capitulos que bastante esfuerzo y trabajo exige crearlos y
mantenerlos. Cuando se intenten crear nuevos capitulos donde ya
existen otros, estos deben empezar al menos sobre la base de
trayectoria del capitulo existente, sus ejecutorias y tiempo
trabajado. Adicionalmente no se debe considerar solamente la
solicitud de un nuevo capitulo sino la necesidad del "mercado"
para el mismo y si existen fallas en el trabajo del capitulo
existente para que la creacion de un nuevo capitulo en
circunscripciones territoriales con limitaciones economicas y de
ejecutorias, resulte en beneficio de la comunidad y no en
detrimento de aquella.<br>
<br>
Carlos Vera<br>
ISOC Ecuador<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2010/12/2 Sabrina Wilmot <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:wilmot@isoc.org" target="_blank">wilmot@isoc.org</a>></span><br>
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Dear Colleagues,<br>
<br>
The following application for a Chapter in Bogota, Colombia,
has been received. It is being sent to this list for peer
comment and review. Please note that the Chapter is not yet
formed and has not officially<br>
been recognised by ISOC.<br>
<br>
FYI, we have met some of the applicants in the past year at
various meetings and have encouraged the members to join the
existing Colombian Chapter on several occasions. However, they
have decided to form a Chapter in Bogota, and their ideas are
outlined in the application below.<br>
<br>
If there are people on this list that know the individuals
proposing to<br>
establish the Chapter, feedback is especially welcome.<br>
<br>
The period allowed for comments is two weeks and the deadline
is December 15, 2010.<br>
<br>
Please do not hesitate to contact me on or off list.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
<br>
Sabrina Wilmot<br>
ISOC<br>
<br>
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<br>
*Chapter Application*<br>
<br>
A. Proposed name of the Chapter<br>
Capítulo Bogotá-Colombia de ISOC / Bogotá-Colombia Chapter Of
ISOC.<br>
<br>
B. Community of Interest the Chapter will to serve<br>
The community of Interest of this Chapter will be initially
the residents of Bogota. Eventually we hope to scale our reach
to other cities and towns in Colombia.<br>
<br>
C. Purpose and Scope of Chapter<br>
The Bogota-Colombia Chapter of ISOC will be an open
organization where every individual or institution will be
welcome to participate and contribute. It will make a special
emphasis in a frequently and effective communication to
coordinate the local efforts with the regional and global ISOC
organization, and its many chapters, by becoming a global
reference on how to engage the different actors (Government,
enterprise, education and civil society), in order to leverage
best practices for the development of local, regional and
national public policy becoming an expert in Internet related
topics.<br>
<br>
The Chapter aims to become a channel for execution of programs
of Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) of Colombian based
companies, developing activities focused at increasing the
“digital inclusion” in our target population. With this
support and with support from many sources, the Chapter will
perform activities in the areas of education and the promotion
of alternative methods of access to internet.<br>
<br>
One difference of the chapter is to help forging productive
links between the electronic game industry and projects
involving the use of games in education, training, health, and
public policy. This will help in exploring the competences
development by empowering the people in the problem solving of
the challenges facing the world, identified in the Millennium
Development (MDG) goals.<br>
<br>
D. Founding Members of the Chapter<br>
Name Surname (Profession, Office Company, Email on file)<br>
Francisco Alcides Ruano Males <br>
Mauricio Álvarez Aragón<br>
Lorenzo Alberto Antamaría Espinosa<br>
Abelardo Arciniegas<br>
Diana Carolina Arias<br>
Ariel Barbosa<br>
Martha Patricia Barrera Alfonso <br>
Carlos Andrés Barrero Flórez<br>
Yesid Alejandro Barreto Jiménez<br>
Jorge Fernando Bejarano Lobo<br>
Crispín Swedi Bilombele<br>
Philippe Boland<br>
Pierre-Alain Branger<br>
Germán Bustos<br>
Mario Hamid Cajiao Mejía<br>
Wilman Alonso Camargo Asesor<br>
Julián Casasbuenas G.<br>
Andrés R. Castelblanco Mendoza<br>
José Manuel Castelblanco Arenas<br>
Juan Carlos Castellanos<br>
Mauricio Rafael Castro Abarca<br>
Carlos Arturo Cely Niño<br>
Sandra L. Céspedes Umaña<br>
Francisco José Córdoba<br>
Jhon Alexander Cuartas Flórez<br>
José Camilo Daccach T.<br>
Andrés Gustavo Díaz<br>
Jairo Alberto Galindo Cuesta<br>
Francisco Javier Galindo Vázquez<br>
Fabián Orlando García<br>
María Andrea Giraldo<br>
Felipe Alexander González Castillo<br>
JOSE SAMUEL GONZALEZ CONTRERAS<br>
José Samuel González Contreras<br>
José Adelmo González R.<br>
Carlos Gutiérrez Cuevas<br>
Yair José Guzmán Brieva<br>
Alejandro Hernández<br>
José Luis Hernández Bautista<br>
Carolina Herrera De Castellanos<br>
Luis Alberto Lesmes Sáenz<br>
Carlos Linares Valentín<br>
Maricela Londoño<br>
Edwin Orlando López<br>
Jefferson Camilo López Barrero<br>
Alfredo López Hernández Educación<br>
Bell Manrique Mejía<br>
Iván Darío Marrugo Jiménez<br>
Daniel Mejía Maldonado<br>
Carlos A. Merchán<br>
Carolina Morales Prado<br>
Ana María Moreno Ballesteros<br>
Alberto Moreno Quiñones<br>
Freddy Alberto Mosquera<br>
Liliana Andrea Murillo Pardo<br>
Yeisson Navarrete Martínez<br>
Carlos Neira<br>
Fabio Cesar Olaya Fernández<br>
Jairo Ortiz<br>
Luis Farley Ortiz Forero<br>
Diane Yissel Osorio Herrera<br>
Andrés Guillermo Otálora<br>
Arilog Regina Pavón Ángel<br>
Julio Páez<br>
Carlos Huber Pinilla Buitrago<br>
Yesid Polania<br>
Eugenia Ramírez Isaza<br>
Cindy Restrepo<br>
Erick Rincón Cárdenas<br>
Freddy Javier Robayo Vargas<br>
Gilberto Rodríguez<br>
Gabriel Rodríguez Escandón<br>
Francisco Javier Roldán<br>
Andrés E. Roldan Martínez <br>
Luz Nelly Romero Agúdelo<br>
Gonzalo Alfredo Romero Borda<br>
Nelson Alberto Ruan Ceballos<br>
Mónica Rubiano<br>
Luis Guillermo Rubiano Orjuela<br>
Tatiana Salamanca Abogada<br>
Félix Eduardo Salcedo<br>
Cesar Augusto Salinas Bermúdez<br>
Carlos Sanabria Periodismo<br>
Eduardo Santoyo<br>
Gabriel Mauricio Sarmiento<br>
Idier Socha Prieto<br>
Carlos Eugenio Thompson Pinzón<br>
María Lucía Urrego<br>
Iván Vargas Chaves<br>
Ana Erlinda Veloza Cerón<br>
Omar Villota Hurtado<br>
Alicia Inés Zanfrillo<br>
Ramiro Zarate Angulo<br>
<br>
E. List of Supporters<br>
Organization Name Role (Contact mail on file)<br>
1. Colnodo - Julián Casasbuenas, Director<br>
2. .co internet sas - Eduardo Santoyo, VP, Asuntos
Corporativos e Institucionales,<br>
3. enREDo - Ana María Moreno Ballesteros, President <br>
<br>
F. List of Requirements<br>
None requirements.<br>
<br>
G. Additional Information<br>
Our communication strategy has been successful, and with the
creation of a site: <a href="http://colombia.isoc.pro/" target="_blank">http://colombia.isoc.pro/</a>
as part of an effort of transparence in all the processes, so
each member and person interested can consult the history of
the creation of the chapter.<br>
<br>
H. Your Contact Information<br>
Philippe Boland<br>
enREDo<br>
Bogotá Colombia<br>
(details on file)<br>
<br>
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RE: Application of Colombian Chapter of the Internet Society -
ISOC - COLOMBIA<br>
<br>
We are writing in behalf of all the people interested in
creating the Bogotá-Colombia chapter and be one of the
official chapters of ISOC.<br>
<br>
In the ISOC Business plan 2010-2012, the next 24 months will
be crucial for the future of this great organization, and the
“lift the game” strategy to reduce semi active chapters will
rejuvenate the presence of ISOC in the world, for that reason
we want to be an official chapter because we are focused in be
the most active chapter in Latin America and further in the
world.<br>
<br>
We know the importance of ISOC in the world, and for that
reason, we have been preparing the creation of the chapter for
many months in order to have the entire crucial axis in place.
We have made 6 preparations meetings by one of our supporting
organizations (enREDo- Red Internacional de Diseño through its
Club Networking TIC), gathering more than 75 people and
designing strategies to maintain the connected with ISOC
Bogota-Colombia.<br>
<br>
Our communication strategy has been successful, and with the
creation of a site: <a href="http://colombia.isoc.pro/" target="_blank">http://colombia.isoc.pro/</a>
as part of an effort of transparence in all the processes, so
each member and person interested can consult the history of
the creation of the chapter.<br>
<br>
Another strategy has been the mailing list (now with 3.000
people) receiving the updates of this great process.<br>
<br>
Many of our members, such as Patricia Cespedes (an IEFT
scholar and member of ISOC for many years) are supporting the
chapter creation from their actual location (in this case
Canada).<br>
<br>
We look forward to receive a positive and fast answer of this
great effort we are engaged.<br>
<br>
Respectfully submitted,<br>
Maricela Londoño C.<br>
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