<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>Pour Memoire,<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>CW</div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>From: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Christopher Wilkinson <<a href="mailto:cw@christopherwilkinson.eu">cw@christopherwilkinson.eu</a>></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>Date: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Mon 6 Sep 2010 19:08:55 GMT+02:00</font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>To: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Chapter Delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><b>Subject: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><b>Comments on draft Affiliation Agreement - CW</b></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; min-height: 14px; "><br></div></div><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 14px; ">Dear Anne Lord and colleagues:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 14px; ">I wish to come back to the draft Affiliation Agreement which you have recently re-published.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 14px; ">Admittedly, I have not followed this discussion closely in recent months, not least because I had thought that the outstanding questions had been adequately set out by ISOC Chennai last July.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 14px; ">However, it would appear that the same issues persist, so please allow me to make some additional comments.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 14px; ">Let me say, up front, that all Internet Society members want the Chapters to be effective, expanding and accountable, and that many of the performance standards and other criteria mentioned in the draft text are of great interest. The question is how best to achieve this:</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 14px; ">1.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>Having re-read the ISOC Articles of Incorporation and Bylaws, I find that - surprisingly - the category of membership of Internet Society Chapters is not yet recognised. I would suggest that before we go any further with this exercise, and particularly in the light of the Board of Trustees' decisions to enhance the role of the Chapters within the Internet Society, that we should begin with an appropriate amendment to the Bylaws providing for and recognising Chapter membership of ISOC.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 14px; ">2.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>The draft text presupposes an artificial dichotomy between ISOC and individual Chapters. If the Chapters are an integral part of ISOC, then one cannot reasonably ask them to enter into a formal agreement with themselves. Recall that for most of our individual members, their Chapter IS the Internet Society. Also, it is not clear who would represent ISOC in such an agreement. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 14px; ">3.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>Most Chapters are incorporated under national Not-For-Profit, or equivalent legislation. Before starting a process of negotiation aimed at obtaining a number of such Affiliation Agreements, world-wide, I would suggest that ISOC acquire information as to the scope for our Chapters to enter into international private agreements of this kind. Also, we should bear in mind that each Chapter's elected leadership is primarily subject to the internal control and assent of its membership. Accordingly it may not be wise to try and impose, externally and contractually, such performance standards and criteria, whatever their objective merits.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 14px; ">Consequently I would recommend that the Spheres Labels group investigate the alternative of transforming this draft Affiliation Agreement into a bilateral exchange of letters between the President of the Chapter concerned and the Chair of the Board of Trustees.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 14px; ">4.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>The draft agreement's excursion into Intellectual Property ("ISOC IP") is bound to raise some questions. No doubt the Internet Society would wish to restrain eventual abuse of our Logo (although I am not aware of any such case). However, the "goodwill" associated with the Internet Society largely pertains to our Chapters in their respective geographical areas. It is not appropriate to suggest that such "IP" automatically accrues to ISOC.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 14px; ">5.<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>Implementation:<span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space: pre; "> </span>The negotiation, monitoring and sanctioning of such agreements world-wide could occupy significant staff resources over a period of years. I am not sure that this is a priority for ISOC. I would of course defer to the Board of Trustees in this particular matter. </div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 14px; ">In any event, I would request that the deadline for additional comments be extended from 16 September to 4 October, or thereafter, following the INET and Chapters meetings in London.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 14px; ">Regards,</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 14px; ">Christopher Wilkinson.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; font-size: 14px; ">-----------------------</div><div style="font-size: 14px; "><div>On 03 Sep 2010, at 07:12, Anne Lord wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Dear Colleagues,<br><br>I have previously posted to this list (see below) information and an invitation to contribute to the ongoing work in the Sphere Labels group. The group is helping to define a minimum set of expectations about what it means to be an Internet Society Chapter, which are captured in a draft Affiliation Agreement. This is one piece of the work to revise the Chapter Policies and Procedures.<br><br>The draft Agreement has had review and feedback from members of the Sphere Labels discussion list, the Chapter Taskforce, the Lawyers and the ISOC Executive team. All the project information (version 2 of the draft , a summary of feedback, responses from the Taskforce and Lawyers and the next steps are available at <a href="http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Sphere+Project">http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Sphere+Project</a><br><br>We would be very happy if you would like to comment on the revised draft Affiliation Agreement. To do so, please join the conversation on the sphere labels mailing list. To join the list, simply send email to <<a href="mailto:chapter-support@isoc.org">chapter-support@isoc.org</a>> or visit <a href="https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/sphere-labels">https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/sphere-labels</a>. The deadline for comments is 16th September.<br><br>Sincere thanks to everyone who has contributed to this work so far.<br><br>Kind regards,<br><br>Anne (on behalf of the Chapter Taskforce).<br>--<br><br>Begin forwarded message:<br><br><blockquote type="cite">From: Anne Lord <<a href="mailto:lord@isoc.org">lord@isoc.org</a>><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Date: 8 June 2010 2:15:48 PM<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">To: Chapter Delegates <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Subject: Invitation to join Sphere Labels group (draft Affiliation Agreement discussion).<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Dear Colleagues,<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Many of you may be aware that work is underway in the Sphere Labels group to review and revise the current Chapter Policies and Procedures at: <a href="http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/policy/">http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/policy/</a>.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">There have been a series of conversations about what it means to be a successful Chapter, all of which are archived at: <a href="http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Titles+Labels+Images&bl=y">http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Titles+Labels+Images&bl=y</a>.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The goal of the work in the Sphere labels group is to develop a framework in the form of an Affiliation Agreement that shapes a partnership between ISOC Global and the ISOC Chapters which ensures a truly symbiotic exchange of value between both parties and makes a meaningful contribution to the overarching mission of the organization as a whole.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">If you are interested to join this discussion you are invited to join the Sphere Labels group. You can subscribe to the mailing list by going to: <a href="https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/sphere-labels">https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/sphere-labels</a> or simply email <chapter-support @ isoc.org>.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Recent Activity:<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The group is currently discussing a draft "Affiliation Agreement" which is the output of a face to face meeting of the Chapter taskforce that met on April 27 and 28. Comments are invited on the document at: <a href="http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=5">http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-view_blog.php?blogId=5</a> from until June 30th. If you would like to participate in this discussion, we would invite you to join Sphere Labels.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">best wishes<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">Anne<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">(on behalf of the Sphere Labels group)<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">---<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><br></blockquote><br>---------------------------------------------------------------------<br>Anne Lord, Senior Manager <<a href="mailto:lord@isoc.org">lord@isoc.org</a>><br>Chapter & Individual Memberships <a href="http://www.isoc.org/">http://www.isoc.org</a><br>Internet Society (ISOC) "The Internet is for everyone"<br>---------------------------------------------------------------------<br><br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Chapter-delegates mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a><br><a href="https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates">https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates</a><br></div></blockquote></div><br style="font-size: 14px; "></div></blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote></div><br></div></blockquote><div><div>On 27 Sep 2010, at 21:15, Anne Lord wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>[Apologies for cross-postings]<br><br>Dear Colleagues,<br><br>The purpose of the Affiliation Agreement is to provide a clear framework for the exchange of value between ISOC HQ and the ISOC Chapters, where none exists today. It defines a set of minimum standards to be considered an 'active' Chapter, and describes the support and resources available from ISOC HQ to help achieve that minimum. The emphasis is on helping each other to succeed in collectively advancing the ISOC mission.<br><br>TRANSLATIONS<br>The French and Spanish translations of the 2nd version of the draft Affiliation Agreement are now available (along with the English version) on the ISOC Chapter wiki at:<br><br>* French: <a href="http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=French+version&bl=y">http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=French+version&bl=y</a><br>* Spanish: <a href="http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Spanish+version&bl=y">http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Spanish+version&bl=y</a><br>* English: <a href="http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Draft+Chapter+Affiliation+Agreement+version+2&bl=y">http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Draft+Chapter+Affiliation+Agreement+version+2&bl=y</a><br><br>They are also linked directly from the Sphere Project pages: <a href="http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Sphere+Project">http://wiki.chapters.isoc.org/tiki-index.php?page=Sphere+Project</a>, where you can find Version 1 of the draft Agreement and the summary of feedback from all stakeholders together with the Chapter Taskforce response.<br><br>HELP NEEDED<br>In the interests of getting these translations to you as quickly as possible, they have not been verified by native speakers. We would really appreciate your help. In addition to your feedback, if you spot any errors in the translations, please let us know by emailing <<a href="mailto:chapter-support@isoc.org">chapter-support@isoc.org</a>> with details.<br><br>TIMELINE<br>The deadline for feedback has, by request, been extended to 29th October 2010. All feedback will be considered and collated for the Chapter Taskforce to consider. This process began a year ago in October 2009 (see: <a href="https://elists.isoc.org/pipermail/chapter-delegates/2009-October/005467.html)">https://elists.isoc.org/pipermail/chapter-delegates/2009-October/005467.html)</a>. This is now a 'last call' for feedback prior to the request for endorsement by the ISOC Board of Trustees meeting mid November.<br><br>Thanks very much in advance for your feedback on version 2.<br><br>Best wishes,<br>Anne<br>On behalf of the Sphere Labels Chapter Taskforce.<br>--<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Chapter-delegates mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a><br>https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates<br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>