<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Good morning:<div><br></div><div>The August 2008 ISOC-ECC document and related pages can be found on the ISOC-ECC.org website.</div><div>The principal texts EN/FR are at:</div><div><br></div><div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><a href="http://www.isoc-ecc.org/docs/ipr2008/GRADUATED_RESPONSES_FIN2_040808.pdf">http://www.isoc-ecc.org/docs/ipr2008/GRADUATED_RESPONSES_FIN2_040808.pdf</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; min-height: 14px; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><a href="http://www.isoc-ecc.org/docs/ipr2008/GRADUATED_RESPONSES_FIN_040808_FR2.pdf">http://www.isoc-ecc.org/docs/ipr2008/GRADUATED_RESPONSES_FIN_040808_FR2.pdf</a></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">I trust that this will be useful.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Regards,</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">Christopher Wilkinson.</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; ">-----------------------------</div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; font: normal normal normal 12px/normal Helvetica; "><br></div><div><div>On 23 Jun 2010, at 17:18, <a href="mailto:runnegar@isoc.org">runnegar@isoc.org</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><font face="arial" size="2"><font size="2" face="arial">Dear Frank and Carlos,<br><br>Thank you for bringing the article to our attention.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Regarding the "HADOPI" law, I would like to take this opportunity to mention some of the work already undertaken by the ISOC France Chapter and the ISOC ECC in this area:<br><br>- ISOC ECC Aide Memoire dated 4 August 2008 entitled: Internet - creative content and "graduated responses"<br>- ISOC ECC and ISOC France press release dated 5 September 2008</font><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p></o:p></span><div style="margin-top: 0cm; margin-right: 0cm; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0cm; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><span lang="EN-AU" style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></div><font size="2" face="arial">I will leave ISOC France and ISOC ECC to provide further details regarding their activities.<br><br>The ISOC Copyright Working Group has also been working in this area, identifying and examining various emerging Internet-focused policy responses around the world to online copyright infringement, including the French "HADOPI" law. Our intention is to produce a discussion</font><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>paper exploring some of the potential implications of these responses with observations and suggested ways forward. We hope this work will provide a valuable contribution to the international, regional and national dialogue on these issues.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Best regards,<br>Christine<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br><br>Christine Runnegar<br>Senior Manager Public Policy<br>Internet Society<br><a href="http://www.isoc.org">www.isoc.org</a><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: "Carlos Martinez" <<a href="mailto:carlosmarcelomartinez@gmail.com">carlosmarcelomartinez@gmail.com</a>><br>Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 10:41pm<br>To: "Franck Martin" <<a href="mailto:franck@avonsys.com">franck@avonsys.com</a>><br>Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a><br>Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Internet Freedom<br><br>If there are conflicting forces within France who might fight HADOPI we should by all means encourage them.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 5:34 PM, Franck Martin<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:franck@avonsys.com">franck@avonsys.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex; "><div><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><span>yes indeed, and the British, the Belgium, the Spanish and a few others now (or soon)...<br><br>So should we fight or encourage?<br><br>To read the politics behind all of that, HADOPI was pushed by the Political right in France, while this initiative is pushed by the political left of France (the Foreign Affairs Minister is from the left party). Some days you win, some days you loose.<div class="im"><br><br><br><span name="x"></span><div><div><div>Franck Martin<br><a href="http://www.avonsys.com/" target="_blank">http://www.avonsys.com/</a><br><a href="http://www.facebook.com/Avonsys" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/Avonsys</a><br>twitter:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://twitter.com/FranckMartin" target="_blank">FranckMartin</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://twitter.com/avonsys" target="_blank">Avonsys</a><br><br>Check your domain reputation:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://gurl.im/b69d4o" target="_blank">http://gurl.im/b69d4o</a><br></div></div></div><span name="x"></span><br></div></span><br><hr><b>From:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Carlos Martinez" <<a href="mailto:carlosmarcelomartinez@gmail.com" target="_blank">carlosmarcelomartinez@gmail.com</a>><br><b>To:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>"Franck Martin" <<a href="mailto:franck@avonsys.com" target="_blank">franck@avonsys.com</a>><br><b>Cc:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b><a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a><br><b>Sent:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Wednesday, 23 June, 2010 8:27:45 AM<br><b>Subject:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Re: [Chapter-delegates] Internet Freedom<div><div></div><div class="h5"><br><br><can't help it><br>Speaking about wrongly securing the Internet, the French should do a serious introspective analysis of HADOPI.<br></can't help it><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Franck Martin<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:franck@avonsys.com" target="_blank">franck@avonsys.com</a>></span><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin-top: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt; margin-bottom: 0pt; margin-left: 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex; "><div><div style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 10pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); "><span><a href="http://ambafrance-us.org/spip.php?article1659" target="_blank">http://ambafrance-us.org/spip.php?article1659</a><br><br>Is ISOC or its chapters are participating in this initiative?<br><br>It seems to me more rewarding to help here than to fight laws that tries to wrongly secure the Internet.<br><br><span></span><div><div><div>Franck Martin<br><a href="http://www.avonsys.com/" target="_blank">http://www.avonsys.com/</a><br><a href="http://www.facebook.com/Avonsys" target="_blank">http://www.facebook.com/Avonsys</a><br>twitter:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://twitter.com/FranckMartin" target="_blank">FranckMartin</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://twitter.com/avonsys" target="_blank">Avonsys</a><br><br>Check your domain reputation:<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="http://gurl.im/b69d4o" target="_blank">http://gurl.im/b69d4o</a><br></div></div></div><span></span><br></span><br></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>Chapter-delegates mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a><br><a href="https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates" target="_blank">https://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates</a><br><br></blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br>========================<br>Carlos M. 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