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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hello Everybody,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='color:#1F497D'>></span><span
lang=EN-US>As I already mentioned to the staff, it is not just an issue of
changing a gif/png image file on a web site. <span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>></span><span lang=EN-US>There are letterheads, envelopes, business
cards, signposts, t-shirts, coffee mugs and everything else with <span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>></span><span lang=EN-US>the chapter logo on it that needs to
be replaced. </span>This does have a cost. <span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>></span><span lang=EN-US>I am not sure most chapters finances
can allow that luxury. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=EN-US style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";
color:black'>If HQ wants us to adapt, there must be a budget to cover the costs
for the chapters. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I am fully in line with all previous speakers and did a quick
inventory in our chapter:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> - WEB: easy to change, less than 5 minutes effort<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> - letterhead: pre-printed in stock 0, effort to change
word/openoffice/powerpoint templates: less than 10 minutes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> - envelopes: pre-printed in stock 0, effort to
change word/openoffice templates: less than 10 minutes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> - business cards: pre-printed in stock less than 50,
effort to change word/openoffice templates: less than 10 minutes<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> - signposts: in use 0, needed replacements 0<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> - t-shirts: in stock 0, nice idea for next event,
but new template has to be created then in any case<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> - coffee mugs: in stock 0, good idea for next event, but
new template has to be created than in any case, took last time less than 2
hours<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> I could continue along this line (what about
memory-sticks, base-caps, windbreakers and and and?)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I do not believe changing of the logo (which by the way is not
intended to be done over night, you have time to phase out and use up your
existing material) will bring to (at least our German) chapters any significant
cost if done in a sensitive way- this still might be different elsewhere.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>But back to my real points:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yes I believe it makes sense to help chapters in
developing and creating such marketing material as mentioned above. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And yes I hope this will be supported by ISOC HQ. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And yes again I propose setting up things like a "logo
kit" put together by ISOC HQ containing all the logos and any other
material needed for publishing and sales in all usually needed setups and
formats (Did you ever try to talk to a professional printer or publisher? -
They have exact ideas in which format a logo is accepted.)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And yes I hope there will be more support for chapters from HQ.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>But it is still upon us to be as chapters (again speaking mostly
for my own chapter) more active and moving forward.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And last but not least: Did you have a look at the new logo
design? There are two versions shown on page 88 of the chapter handbook - and
at least for us (again speaking for the German chapter) - the difference to our
existing logo is minimal - so the change to the new layout can be done without
too much difficulties.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>just my 2 cents before the discussion is taking up too much
speed <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hans Peter<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Hans Peter Dittler<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Member of the board<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>ISOC.DE<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Consolas;
color:#1F497D'>Internet Society German Chapter e.V.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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