<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Dear Frédéric:<div><br>> As we understand it ... </div><div><br></div><div>¿ Who is <<we>><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>?</div><div><br></div><div>Christopher Wilkinson</div><div>Chair</div><div>Internet Society European Coordinating Council (ISOC-ECC)</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On 28 Oct 2009, at 09:23, Frederic Donck wrote:</div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div>Dear Chapter delegates and individual ISOC members,<br><br>Recently there has been growing interest amongst our membership in<br>the areas of data protection and privacy. This is also an area of<br>great interest to ISOC. We are very pleased to see our Chapters and<br>individual members taking such an active interest in these issues.<br><br>Recently, The Public Voice (<a href="http://www.thepublicvoice.org">www.thepublicvoice.org</a>) has asked<br>individuals and organisations to support its Global Privacy<br>Standards for a Global World The Civil Society Declaration Madrid,<br>Spain 3 November 2009. This document can be viewed at<br><a href="http://thepublicvoice.org/madrid-declaration">http://thepublicvoice.org/madrid-declaration</a>.<br><br><b>As we understand it,</b> The Public Voice proposes to formally release<br>this document at a Civil Society organised conference on 3 November<br>2009 entitled<br>"Global Privacy Standards for a Global World" prior to the 30th<br>International Conference of Data Protection and Privacy<br>Commissioners in Madrid.<br><br>Some ISOC members and Chapters have publicly expressed their support<br>for the declaration.<br><br><b>We would like to take this opportunity</b> to outline the procedure<br>Chapters must follow when taking public positions and/or making<br>public statements.<br><br>Specific officials of Chapters, acting on behalf of their Chapter,<br>may make public statements and establish public positions as long as<br>they meet the following requirements:<br><br>1. They must advance the purposes of the Internet Society, which<br>includes advancing the purposes of a Chapter in good standing.<br>2. They must not be contrary to any position of the Internet<br>Society.<br>3. They must be prepared and presented in a professional manner.<br>4. They must be clearly and unambiguously identified as originating<br>from the Chapter of the Internet Society.<br>5. It should be unlikely they will give rise to any significant<br>legal or juridical liability.<br><br>Where there is any question or doubt regarding the appropriateness<br>of a public position or statement, a Chapter is expected to consult<br>with ISOC at least one week prior to its release or announcement.<br>Chapters must also notify the ISOC no later than the same day of the<br>release of any public position or statement.<br><br>ISOC Finland Chapter has asked us to advise whether ISOC will be<br>supporting the Civil Society Madrid Declaration.<br><br>ISOC does not propose to express its support for the Civil Society<br>Madrid Declaration because <b>we have some concerns</b> about the way the<br>declaration is expressed.<br><br><b>We also consider</b> that it would not be appropriate for ISOC to<br>support a document which might be viewed as seeking to remind<br>governments to apply their own laws and asserting without evidence<br>that there "is growing collaboration between governments and vendors<br>of surveillance technology that establish new forms of social<br>control".<br><br>Further, the document does not identify the privacy laws and privacy<br>institutions which are asserted to have failed to take into account<br>the described factors. Without knowing what these are and how they<br>are said to have failed to take them into account, <b>we cannot assess</b><br>whether or not this statement is correct.<br><br>It is also unclear what are the "new strategies to pursue copyright<br>and unlawful content investigations" which are said to pose<br>"substantial threats to communications privacy, intellectual<br>freedom, and the due process of law". Without knowing what those<br>strategies are, we cannot comment on whether or not they pose<br>substantial threats to privacy.<br><br>Further, whilst devices or applications that observe and/or record<br>personal information may raise potential privacy issues, we do not<br>agree that the response should be to impose a moratorium on the<br>development or implementation of new technologies such as RFID etc.<br><br><b>Accordingly, we ask</b> that you do not express support for this<br>Declaration as an ISOC member or Chapter.<br><br>You may, of course, support the Declaration in your personal<br>capacity.<br><br>Thank you very much,<br><br>Best Regards<br>Frederic<br><br>Frederic Donck<br>Director Public Policy<br>Internet Society<br><br><a href="http://www.isoc.org">www.isoc.org</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Chapter-delegates mailing list<br>Chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org<br>http://elists.isoc.org/mailman/listinfo/chapter-delegates<br></div></blockquote></div><br></body></html>