Hello Joly,<br><br>Thank you your formal attention to your own message ! I hope that George Sadowsky views this as an opportunity to express gestures of oneness with China.<br><br>What ought to have been an integral part of ISOC, went its own way, understandably in conformity with the Government's wishes, which appears to changing, in its overall views about the value of the Internet, if the Chinese Government's participation in Netizen Day is any indication. <br>
<br>Though there are areas of differences between ISOC's fundamental values and the idealogical beliefs of China, at least some Chapters of ISOC would consider one aspect of China's views on Internet Governance reasonable "No Governments, or All Governments". as reported in a different list as a summary of the Chinese position at the IGF, Hyderabad. We may not entirely agree with this, but this is a position which is a good starting point to a debate,<br>
<br>An ISOC Chapter in China would be an essential step to preserve the oneness of the Internet. With that larger purpose, ISOC Global and the ISOC Chapters could look at this opportunity to stretch an arm of friendship and interact. I feel that the Government of China could consider its earlier policies
to 'separate' the 'Internet Society' from ISOC and become one with the
Internet Community.<br><br>Thank you.<br>Sivasubramanian Muthusamy<br><br><br><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 9, 2009 at 3:23 AM, WWWhatsup <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:joly@punkcast.com">joly@punkcast.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">I could be wrong but I'm under the impression that there was an extended engagement in the 90s after<br>
which, ultimately, the Chinese decided to go their own way - the 'Internet Society of China' being a quasi-government<br>
run body as much concerned with control as propagation. I do remember receiving a delegation here in NYC at the time,<br>
very polite and non-committal.<br>
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I've cc'd George Sadowsky - perhaps he could enlighten us?<br>
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joly<br>
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At 03:39 PM 1/8/2009, you wrote:<br>
>Hello<br>
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>Joly MacFie posted this message in One Web Day with a disclaimer. His message is about the Netizen Cultural Festival to be organized in Beijing. Perhaps this would be an occasion to congratulate the 'Internet Society' of China and encourage them? We may eventually have to ask them in a nice way to name their organization a bit differently and/or welcome them to be a part of ISOC, but now this is an occasion for ISOC to congratulate them?<br>
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>--<br>
>Sivasubramanian Muthusamy<br>
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>Joly MacFie's Message in <<a href="http://www.onewebday.org" target="_blank">http://www.onewebday.org</a>>One Web Day follows:<br>
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>[Note that The Internet Society of China is NOT affiliated with<br>
>the global Internet Society.]<br>
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