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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hi Franck,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yes I am familiar with the jabber construction. We actually did
it at the IETF as well once to see what people thought of it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>The biggest complaint was that when Jabber is used it gave a big
bloc of text suddenly and that increased the delay between what is said and what
you see on the screen.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It is exactly there where Real-Time Text will be a valuable
addition. The delay between the speaker and the text is then minimal. Since the
text is then visible the moment the interpreter has typed them.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I am in contact with them and investigating how we can have this
using real-time text. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>As soon I have more details. I will let all of you know.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cheers<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Arnoud<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>---------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Arnoud van Wijk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Disability Projects Coordinator<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>email: vanwijk@isoc.org<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>SIP (ToIP) vanwijk@sip.isoc.org<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>FAX +31412614000 <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Internet Society (ISOC) "The Internet is for
everyone"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.isoc.org/">http://www.isoc.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>----------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Franck Martin [mailto:franck@sopac.org] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> maandag 15 september 2008 22:37<br>
<b>To:</b> Arnoud van Wijk<br>
<b>Cc:</b> chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] Conferencing support<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>APNIC and ICANN is offering that during its meetings. Not sure if
IETF has that, I noticed a WG area director being blind...<br>
<br>
I found it useful and very low bandwidth, however it has costs as a few transcribers
are needed...<br>
<br>
Franck Martin<br>
ICT Specialist<br>
franck@sopac.org<br>
SOPAC, Fiji<br>
GPG Key fingerprint = 44A4 8AE4 392A 3B92 FDF9 D9C6 BE79 9E60 81D9 1320<br>
"Toute connaissance est une reponse a une question" G.Bachelard<br>
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----- Original Message -----<br>
From: "Arnoud van Wijk" <vanwijk@isoc.org><br>
To: "Franck Martin" <franck@sopac.org>,
chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org<br>
Sent: Monday, 15 September, 2008 8:46:27 PM GMT +12:00 Fiji<br>
Subject: RE: [Chapter-delegates] Conferencing support<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Hello Franck,</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yes that is a good idea and also add Real-Time Text captioning
as well. Translating all the speech into text. It will help who cannot hear
well, but also when the conference/meeting is held in a language that is not
your own native language.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And when this works well, interpreters can offer translations
via text as well.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This is just my 2 cents. But I consider that also quite
realistic to make that possible.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Arnoud</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>---------------------------------------------------------------------</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Arnoud van Wijk</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Disability Projects Coordinator</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>email: vanwijk@isoc.org</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>SIP (ToIP) vanwijk@sip.isoc.org</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>FAX
+31412614000
</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Internet Society (ISOC)
"The Internet is for everyone"</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.isoc.org/" target="_blank">http://www.isoc.org</a></span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>
chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org
[mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Franck
Martin<br>
<b>Sent:</b> maandag 15 september 2008 7:15<br>
<b>To:</b> chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Chapter-delegates] Conferencing support</span><span
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:black'>All,<br>
<br>
Following the discussion re PacINET video broadcasting and also the experience
for local committees of setting up a performing wireless network, it occurred
to me that could be an activity of ISOC in support to the chapters.<br>
<br>
For instance, ISOC contracts a company to do the network at the IETF and ICANN
does the same. They tend now to not rely on local providers to do the
conference connectivity but only to supply the fat pipes. Indeed it is a
special set of skills and tools to do this work correctly and it is only gained
by experience in managing conferences.<br>
<br>
At the moment Chapters are doing the following conferences: Afica INET, EGENI,
PacINET,... (who did I miss?) There are also some day events run by chapters.<br>
<br>
There are a few members and delegates that particpate remotely to this
conference despite the technology issues. Personnaly, I thank all that did for
PacINET (It gave quite an impression when Cook Islanders heard that there was a
question from Ecuador).<br>
<br>
It could be useful, to have a network in a box kind of tool, where you plug the
Internet in one end, and place pre-configured Wireless acess points that would
provide IPv4 AND IPv6 connectivity to a large set of laptops. It would have a
conferencing system, to pick up sound and image and broadcast it via an ISOC
relay server like marratech.<br>
<br>
In some cases a technician could come with the box and set it all up before the
meeting as well as manage it during meetings.<br>
<br>
This would allow the whole of ISOC to be able to participate in other chapters
needs, and ISOC could run like this a kind of virtual "TV" show for
all its members and more. There are other things that could be broadcasted,
like AC meetings, Chapters meeting, Board meetings,....<br>
<br>
It is a rough idea, that needs to be made more real, but I sense that several
needs could be fulfilled here.<br>
<br>
What do you think?</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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