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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello Siva,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>thanks for forwarding this interesting
presentation. The Grid certainly demonstrates the feeling of hope and
anticipation that Web 2.0 would be the next "killer ap", the next big bubble.
IMHO, alas, the Grid and the ideas presented in this presentation did not take
into account the Telecommunication Provider (Telco) point of view, which is:
everybody else has cashed in on services, why shouldn't we?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In other words, the Grid would only be possible if
Telcos wanted it. It appears that they don't. Or at least, they do, but only
with their direct involvement and their terms. Along with most Intellectual
Property owners, they consider P2P as a threat, not an asset.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My thoughts on what needs to be fundamentally
preserved:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- "the internet is for everyone": promote Internet
access worldwide. There are still many many communities that do not have
Internet access. With the developed world's economy & processes relying more
on more on the Internet, we might soon see an "underclass" of people without
Internet access, that will be treated as 2d class citizens. As for the
developing world, it is still today *very* expensive to have sustainable
internet access in many places. The fact that a country has full internet
connectivity does not mean affordable access everywhere.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Network Neutrality</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am a firm believer that NN needs to be preserved.
Without NN on the Internet, Google, Yahoo, Skype, Facebook & any other
startups would not be in existence today. Why? Because without NN, before
proposing a new service on the Internet, you'd need to ask for authorisation to
pump that type of traffic into the Net; and Telcos would have probably said no.
I've been there & done that.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Freedom of Speech</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, the Internet is the warrant for your freedom.
The day there will be no freedom of speech on the Internet, be afraid; be very
afraid. Examples already abound, so I won't go any further.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Open Standards</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Do not, I repeat, do not let one vendor, one
company, one organisation provide you with one single product. Monopoly = bad. I
am not prejudiced and am happy using products from the big boys out there, as
much as I also make use of OpenSource. But standards need to be open for
creativity to prevail.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Enough Addressing for everyone</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Yes, I call this "preserving" enough addresses. And
if there are not enough for future expansion, then find a way to create some. In
other words, move on to IPv6. This really goes onto: "the internet is for
everyone". With limited IPv4 real estate available, trust me, once it gets
costly, the Internet won't be for everyone.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Better be late than wrong</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>This is something which I have felt recently. A
mistake on the Internet's development can get *very* costly. This is why any
policy change seems to take so long. Ultimately, there is enough collective
wisdom for the right decision to be taken. Make sure it stays that way. If it
smells, it's fishy.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>- Keep politics out of it</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The Internet brings people together. It should not
be a political instrument. Of course many disagree with me. Hidden agenda,
anyone? :-)</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I hope this provides you with a good
starter.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Warmest regards,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>O.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>-- <BR>Olivier MJ Crepin-Leblond,
Ph.D.<BR>E-mail:<<A href="mailto:ocl@gih.com">ocl@gih.com</A>> | <A
href="http://www.gih.com/ocl.html">http://www.gih.com/ocl.html</A></FONT></DIV>
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<A title=isolatedn@gmail.com href="mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com">Sivasubramanian
Muthusamy</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=singh@isoc.org
href="mailto:singh@isoc.org">Rajnesh D. Singh</A> </DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, September 07, 2008 3:27
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Chapter-delegates] What are
the characteristics of theInternet tobe preserved ?</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>Hello Rajnesh Singh,<BR><BR>Thank you very much for pointing me
to the right document. <BR><BR>Also, please take a look at the document
(attached) by Michael Nelson, former Vice President Policy of ISOC presented
at Oxford over two years ago - If this Document entirely goes along with
ISOC's principles, I would like to use it. (Looks like it is, but there is one
section in the document on "Grid" , a discussion that I have not found
anywhere in ISOC.)<BR><BR>Please guide me.<BR><BR>Siavasubramanian M.<BR><BR>
<DIV class=gmail_quote>On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 6:04 PM, Rajnesh D. Singh <SPAN
dir=ltr><<A href="mailto:singh@isoc.org">singh@isoc.org</A>></SPAN>
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Shiva,</SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">You may find the
ISOC white paper on UCI of some relevance. Please see:</SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><A
href="http://www.isoc.org/pubpolpillar/usercentricity/"
target=_blank>http://www.isoc.org/pubpolpillar/usercentricity/</A></SPAN></FONT></P>
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Muthusamy<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B> Sunday, 7
September 2008 6:14 AM<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B>
Chapter Delegates<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B>
[Chapter-delegates] What are the characteristics of the Internet tobe
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<P><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hello
All,<BR><BR>If a venerable veteran of Internet is invited to address a group
of sophomore students on their first day at the Internet Policy and
Governance class, what would he list as the essential characteristics of the
Internet ?<BR><I><SPAN style="FONT-STYLE: italic"><BR>Access? Affordable
Access ? Access without barriers ? Access without discrimination of any kind
? ( What is Internet for All ? ) <BR><BR>User-Centricity ? (
what is that ? )<BR><BR>Neutral ? What kind of neutrality ? Neutral of
technical standards ? Neutral of political, religious and social ideologies
? <BR><BR>freedome ? of speech ? freedom from controls ?<BR><BR>Unity
(or) a single internetwork ?<BR><BR>Openness - Open Technical Standards ?
Open to commerce free of barriers ? Open to changes ?</SPAN></I><BR><BR>What
are the characteristics of the Internet that can be listed together as
features of the Internet that needs to be preserved ?<BR><BR><BR
clear=all><BR>-- Sivasubramanian Muthusamy<BR>ISOC India Chennai<BR><A
href="http://isocmadras.blogspot.com"
target=_blank>http://isocmadras.blogspot.com</A><BR><A
href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/sivasubramanianmuthusamy"
target=_blank>http://www.linkedin.com/in/sivasubramanianmuthusamy</A></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>Chapter-delegates
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