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<div>Just to confirm what Frank mentioned that PacInet has grown dramatically in the region over the last few years. There was so much interest in the region especially when we have international speakers. People have travelled as far as PNG to Cook Islands just to attend the one week session. A lot more could have attended if they have available funding. This is our major challenge for attendance.</div>
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<div>Thank you for considering to assist us in one way or another. If possible, can you help us find funding for fellowships for our next PacInets?</div>
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<div>Kind Regards</div>
<div>Andrew</div>
<div>Acting Vice Chair</div>
<div>PICISOC<br><br></div>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 8:46 AM, Alejandro Pisanty <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:apisan@servidor.unam.mx">apisan@servidor.unam.mx</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Mike,<br><br>maybe we can put up together a funding-doing effort so that someone who<br>attends the meeting also carries some of the recording equipment needed,<br>
for example. If there is a donor it may be that the gear is left in the<br>Islands; if not, carried back after uploading files.<br><br>Others with bandwidth and servers might host a mirror.<br><br>And so on.<br><br>The greatest challenge is actual bandwidth on the Islands during the<br>
meeting; that seems much harder to get unless one of us can persuade a<br>satellite and an underwater-cable provider to supply at lest the extra<br>capacity needed during the meeting.<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>Alejandro Pisanty<br><br><br>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .<br> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty<br>UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico<br><br>
Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732<br><br>*Mi blog/My blog: <a href="http://pisanty.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://pisanty.blogspot.com</a><br>*LinkedIn profile: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty</a><br>
*Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn, <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614</a><br><br>---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, <a href="http://www.isoc.org/" target="_blank">http://www.isoc.org</a><br>
Participa en ICANN, <a href="http://www.icann.org/" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org</a><br>. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .<br><br><br></div>On Tue, 2 Sep 2008, Mike Todd wrote:<br>
<br>> Date: Tue, 2 Sep 2008 14:21:58 -0700<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">> From: Mike Todd <<a href="mailto:miketodd@miketodd.com">miketodd@miketodd.com</a>><br></div>> To: Alejandro Pisanty <<a href="mailto:apisan@servidor.unam.mx">apisan@servidor.unam.mx</a>>,<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <<a href="mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com">isolatedn@gmail.com</a>><br>> Cc: "<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@lists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@lists.isoc.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>><br>
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<div class="Wj3C7c">> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] PacINET 2008 starting in 45mn<br>><br>> Alejandro,<br>><br>> I would love to be able to help Frank, Raj and the other folks associated<br>> with <a href="http://picisoc.org/" target="_blank">picisoc.org</a> and the others in the midst of the "Pacific Rim". If I<br>
> controlled any bandwidth and transport facilities that could become part of<br>> the solution, you can bet your paycheck on the fact that I would be at the<br>> head of the line. I'm sure Vint Cerf would be there too and, I'm sure, ahead<br>
> of me in that line since he has been a frequent visitor and speaker in that<br>> area.<br>><br>> There has to be a solution that is not totally controlled by fiscal<br>> matters...<br>><br>> Mike Todd<br>
> President, Mike Todd Associates - <a href="http://www.miketodd.com/" target="_blank">www.MikeTodd.com</a><br>> Supporting the Digital Coast<br>><br>> President, Internet Society Los Angeles Chapter - <a href="http://www.isoc-la.org/" target="_blank">www.ISOC-LA.org</a><br>
> <a href="mailto:mtodd@isoc-la.org">mtodd@isoc-la.org</a><br>><br>> Founder, Digital Divide Task Force, <a href="http://www.ddtf.org/" target="_blank">www.ddtf.org</a> (undergoing updates)<br>> <a href="mailto:miketodd@ddtf.org">miketodd@ddtf.org</a><br>
><br>> Western Research Application Center, Viterbi School of Engineering,<br>> University of Southern California<br>><br>> Center for Entrepreneurship and Technology Law<br>> Pepperdine University School of Law<br>
><br>> Alt email: <a href="mailto:mike.todd92@gmail.com">mike.todd92@gmail.com</a><br>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alejandro Pisanty"<br>> <<a href="mailto:apisan@servidor.unam.mx">apisan@servidor.unam.mx</a>><br>
> To: "Sivasubramanian Muthusamy" <<a href="mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com">isolatedn@gmail.com</a>><br>> Cc: "<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@lists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@lists.isoc.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>><br>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2008 13:52<br>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] PacINET 2008 starting in 45mn<br>><br>><br>>> S., Mike, friends,<br>>><br>>> maybe I would look into this in a very different way.<br>
>><br>>> Last time I took part in a PacINET meeting, a year or two ago, I was moved<br>>> by the fact that one participant from an island country had to leave the<br>>> meeting due to the fact that her use of Marratech was consuming all the<br>
>> bandwidth available for her country.<br>>><br>>> And it is not only bandwidth that is scarce, nor is that the only problem<br>>> one can have, as this well-educated community is best posed to know.<br>
>> Delays, double satellite hops, instabilities of all kinnds, all conspire<br>>> to make life difficult.<br>>><br>>> It is really tough out there. Franck, Raj, and many others whose names<br>>> don't make it to the chapter delegates list, are heroic in not only<br>
>> running the Net but also holding meetings over it.<br>>><br>>> So, maybe we could put our collective brain and soul together and find a<br>>> way to support them next time?<br>>><br>>> Yours,<br>
>><br>>> Alejandro Pisanty<br>>><br>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .<br>>> Dr. Alejandro Pisanty<br>>> UNAM, Av. Universidad 3000, 04510 Mexico DF Mexico<br>
>><br>>> Tels. +52-(1)-55-5105-6044, +52-(1)-55-5418-3732<br>>><br>>> *Mi blog/My blog: <a href="http://pisanty.blogspot.com/" target="_blank">http://pisanty.blogspot.com</a><br>>> *LinkedIn profile: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/pisanty</a><br>
>> *Unete al grupo UNAM en LinkedIn,<br>>> <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/e/gis/22285/4A106C0C8614</a><br>>><br>>> ---->> Unete a ISOC Mexico, <a href="http://www.isoc.org/" target="_blank">http://www.isoc.org</a><br>
>> Participa en ICANN, <a href="http://www.icann.org/" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org</a><br>>> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .<br>>><br>>><br>>> On Wed, 3 Sep 2008, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:<br>
>><br>>>> Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 00:22:47 +0530<br>>>> From: Sivasubramanian Muthusamy <<a href="mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com">isolatedn@gmail.com</a>><br>>>> To: Franck Martin <<a href="mailto:franck@sopac.org">franck@sopac.org</a>><br>
>>> Cc: "<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@lists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@lists.isoc.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>><br>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] PacINET 2008 starting in 45mn<br>
>>><br>>>> Hello Frank Martin,<br>>>><br>>>> PaciNet looks like a huge effort for a Chapter and it has an array of<br>>>> Speeches and Presentations lined up. If not during this PaciNet, if some<br>
>>> attention could be paid to recording the sessions ( uploading presentation<br>>>> helps but not quite, because the Voice Over the presentation that is<br>>>> missed<br>>>> often contains the most important points )<br>
>>><br>>>> During Apnic 24 in India I noticed a very impressive team of Transcribers<br>>>> equipped with stenographic equipment simultaneously transcribing every<br>>>> word<br>>>> spoken by the Speakers, by the audience during Q&A, even recording the<br>
>>> names<br>>>> of those from the audience on the same instance as they were interacting (<br>>>> Wonder how they knew everyone in the audience in that large room of about<br>>>> 300 people )<br>
>>><br>>>> Anne was present at that meeting in Delhi over a year ago and might have a<br>>>> clue of where that expensive looking transcribers came from. Should be<br>>>> worthwhile to make a provision for the presence of such a team in events<br>
>>> such as PaciNet.<br>>>><br>>>> (As for the sessions in progress, video or at least audio recording of<br>>>> every<br>>>> word spoken would create valuable documents for future reference )<br>
>>><br>>>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy<br>>>><br>>>> On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 12:03 AM, Franck Martin <<a href="mailto:franck@sopac.org">franck@sopac.org</a>> wrote:<br>>>><br>
>>>> Well Internet in the Pacific Islands is not a given.<br>>>>><br>>>>> You can find past proceedings of the PacINET conference on<br>>>>> <a href="http://www.picisoc.org/" target="_blank">www.picisoc.org</a>.<br>
>>>> If you video google PacINET you will find some of the video of past<br>>>>> sessions.<br>>>>><br>>>>> For this session, it will be done, but likely to be released by December.<br>
>>>><br>>>>> If you can offer us some professional services for video conferencing,<br>>>>> record the minutes, etc.. We will welcome them. PICISOC like all chapters<br>>>>> is<br>
>>>> composed of unpaid volunteers.<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>>>>> ----- Original Message -----<br>>>>> From: "Mike Todd" <<a href="mailto:miketodd@miketodd.com">miketodd@miketodd.com</a>><br>
>>>> To: "Franck Martin" <<a href="mailto:franck@sopac.org">franck@sopac.org</a>>,<br>>>>> "<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@lists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@lists.isoc.org</a>"<br>
>>>> <<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a>><br>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, 3 September, 2008 6:16:04 AM GMT +12:00 Fiji<br>>>>> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] PacINET 2008 starting in 45mn<br>
>>>><br>>>>> Frank,<br>>>>><br>>>>> While attending the Program I asked a number of times about where the<br>>>>> audio, video, slides and other materials, much like the Proceedings of a<br>
>>>> major professional conference in the physical world, would be located,<br>>>>> when<br>>>>> available and where to go to get them.<br>>>>><br>>>>> With no exception you were identified as the person to contact.<br>
>>>><br>>>>> The audio and video was difficult to follow, mostly because the stream<br>>>>> seemed to be interrupted at the drop of a hat and somehow, the feed kept<br>>>>> being turned off. Every once in a while, turning on the microphone and<br>
>>>> asking what happened to the feed resulted in it being turned back on<br>>>>> again.<br>>>>><br>>>>> To a small group of Marratech attendees toward the end of the day, I<br>
>>>> promised to send you an email asking where we might get the audio and<br>>>>> text<br>>>>> versions of PacINET2008 so we can feel better connected to the great<br>>>>> Program<br>
>>>> you all have put together there...<br>>>>><br>>>>> Mike Todd<br>>>>> President, Mike Todd Associates - <a href="http://www.miketodd.com/" target="_blank">www.MikeTodd.com</a><br>
>>>> Supporting the Digital Coast<br>>>>><br>>>>> President, Internet Society Los Angeles Chapter - <a href="http://www.isoc-la.org/" target="_blank">www.ISOC-LA.org</a><br>>>>> <a href="mailto:mtodd@isoc-la.org">mtodd@isoc-la.org</a><br>
>>>><br>>>>> Founder, Digital Divide Task Force, <a href="http://www.ddtf.org/" target="_blank">www.ddtf.org</a> (undergoing updates)<br>>>>> <a href="mailto:miketodd@ddtf.org">miketodd@ddtf.org</a><br>
>>>><br>>>>> Western Research Application Center, Viterbi School of Engineering,<br>>>>> University of Southern California<br>>>>><br>>>>> Center for Entrepreneurship and Technology Law<br>
>>>> Pepperdine University School of Law<br>>>>><br>>>>> Alt email: <a href="mailto:mike.todd92@gmail.com">mike.todd92@gmail.com</a><br>>>>><br>>>>> ----- Original Message -----<br>
>>>> *From:* Franck Martin <<a href="mailto:franck@sopac.org">franck@sopac.org</a>><br>>>>> *To:* <a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@lists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates@lists.isoc.org</a><br>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, September 01, 2008 11:19<br>
>>>> *Subject:* [Chapter-delegates] PacINET 2008 starting in 45mn<br>>>>><br>>>>> We are ready to start on Marratech in 45mn.<br>>>>><br>>>>> get Marratech at <a href="http://www.marratech.com/" target="_blank">www.marratech.com</a><br>
>>>><br>>>>> then go to <a href="https://marratech.webapps.isoc.org:8001/" target="_blank">https://marratech.webapps.isoc.org:8001/</a><br>>>>><br>>>>> no login/password needed, just click on ISOC Auditorium<br>
>>>><br>>>>> We will start 9am CK time GMT-10<br>>>>><br>>>>> Program, etc.. on <a href="http://www.picisoc.org/" target="_blank">www.picisoc.org</a><br>>>>><br>
>>>> Be there or be square.<br>>>>><br>>>>> Franck Martin<br>>>>> ICT Specialist<br>>>>> <a href="mailto:franck@sopac.org">franck@sopac.org</a><br>>>>> SOPAC, Fiji<br>
>>>> GPG Key fingerprint = 44A4 8AE4 392A 3B92 FDF9 D9C6 BE79 9E60 81D9 1320<br>>>>> "Toute connaissance est une reponse a une question" G.Bachelard<br>>>>><br>>>>><br>
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