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<p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailEndCompose"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hello Mike,<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Yes there are many people who have a lot of knowledge and
understanding in accessibility of websites and services via the web.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>This book is indeed very interesting and a good starting point
for people who want to understand more accessible websites (and services).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>There are many links and many groups working on info and small
functions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>As I said in my previous mail, I would love to have ONE site, where
ISOC and the ISOC Chapters combine all the knowledge on web based services and
functions. And make that accessible with explanation how and actually show how
to do so. And the code/scripts/templates available for everybody.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Easy navigation, text to voice, Braille reader, subtitled flash video
clips (and audio description of the video), keyboard navigation….and
more.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>But if we want to do this. It is going to be an enormous pile of
work and a big team of people working on it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And moreover such site must be maintained to include new
functions and implementations. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And what is the goal? Make a demo and resource for all people
who are involved in building services and websites using the WWW.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>And such site can also be used as testing site for new input
devices aimed at e.g. people with a motoric disability. Or test a read-aloud
text to voice and possible new flash/comet etc versions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Let me read the other mails and check the web links and we can
then get a group together to see what would be needed to pull this off. The
more people and other organizations pitch in, the better </span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Thank you for the comments Mike.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Sincerely<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Arnoud<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Arnoud van Wijk<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Disability Projects Coordinator<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>email: vanwijk@isoc.org<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>SIP (ToIP) vanwijk@sip.isoc.org<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>FAX
+31412614000
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Internet Society (ISOC)
"The Internet is for everyone"<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><a href="http://www.isoc.org/"><span style='font-size:10.5pt;
font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>http://www.isoc.org</span></a><span
style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'>----------------------------------------------------------------------<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Michael Burks [mailto:mburks952@gmail.com] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> donderdag 22 mei 2008 16:17<br>
<b>To:</b> Arnoud van Wijk<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Franck Martin; chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] Web Accessibility with private sector<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>I think Point 3 is an excellent
idea.<br>
<br>
Many of the members of the Disability and Special Needs Chapter know a lot
about this, in fact, three of them, Cynthia Waddell, Mark Urban, and
myself, helped write two books on the subject one of which can be found
here <a href="http://www.friendsofed.com/web-accessibility/">http://www.friendsofed.com/web-accessibility/</a>
<br>
<br>
I think a project such as this would be an excellent idea. <br>
<br>
We are poised and ready to help. One of the best things about it would be
it would bring a plethora of solutions to the table, and many cultures would
participate, which would be excellent!<br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Mike Burks<br>
Chairman Disability and Special Needs Chapter<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 5:24 AM, Arnoud van Wijk <<a
href="mailto:vanwijk@isoc.org">vanwijk@isoc.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><a name="11a0ff544f475fa6__MailEndCompose"><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Hi Franck,</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Thanks for the link.
I know Scott quite well. Great guy and he is always very interested in my
accessibility work at the IETF since 2000. </span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>This case does
illustrate a few items:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'>1. The internet is becoming
more and more part of the daily life. Using a website (and internet services)
is more and more essential for all users. So people with a disability are just
as hindered/disadvantaged as any lack of accessibility in a physical store. See
my letter of introduction on the chapters wiki (Disability Nexus) on my views.
So yes target must make their websites accessible and the ADA also applies to
any internet site/service.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'>2. People with a visual
disability are the first people who encountered reduced to no access to the
internet. (Internet started mainstream as WWW, which was mainly text and
pictures). But with the oncoming multimedia avalanche, people with a hearing
disability are also more and more reduced in the access. (how often do you see
YouTube videos with subtitles?). The urge for nice multimedia websites also has
the impact on the ease of navigation for many people.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='text-indent:-18.0pt'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'>3. There is a lot of
confusion on what would be a very good and accessible website allowing people
with a disability to have the same access as anyone. There are a lot of
activities there, but perhaps we should see if all the ISOC Chapters can help
on creating a global guide for a fully accessible website helping web builders
and organizations/companies etc to ensure their website is fully accessible. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Is point 3 a good
idea? What do you think?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>By the way a remark
Franck: " </span><span lang=EN-US>May be something your chapter could join
as part of the court process?</span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;
color:#1F497D'> " I am not a chapter </span><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>I work with all
Chapters (that is my intention and plan).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Also, I am wondering
how we could do anything with the court process. I am allergic to courts and
lawyers and the whole stuff. I prefer bringing a good solution that we can
offer people.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Sincerely</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>Arnoud</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D'>Arnoud van Wijk</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D'>Disability Projects
Coordinator</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D'>email: <a
href="mailto:vanwijk@isoc.org" target="_blank">vanwijk@isoc.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D'>SIP (ToIP) <a
href="mailto:vanwijk@sip.isoc.org" target="_blank">vanwijk@sip.isoc.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D'>FAX
+31412614000
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.5pt;color:#1F497D'>Internet Society
(ISOC) "The Internet is for
everyone"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><a href="http://www.isoc.org/" target="_blank"><span style='font-size:10.5pt'>http://www.isoc.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'>From:</span></b><span
lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt'> Franck Martin [mailto:<a
href="mailto:franck@sopac.org" target="_blank">franck@sopac.org</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> donderdag 22 mei 2008 2:42<br>
<b>To:</b> Arnoud van Wijk<br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org" target="_blank">chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Web Accessibility with private sector</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><a
href="http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2008/021108bradner.html"
target="_blank">http://www.networkworld.com/columnists/2008/021108bradner.html</a></span><br>
<br>
Arnoud,<br>
<br>
I wonder if you have seen this column from Scott. May be something your chapter
could join as part of the court process?<br>
<br>
Seems to me an opportunity here <o:p></o:p></p>
<pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre><pre>Franck Martin<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>ICT Specialist<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a
href="mailto:franck@sopac.org" target="_blank">franck@sopac.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre>SOPAC, Fiji<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>GPG Key fingerprint = 44A4 8AE4 392A 3B92 FDF9 D9C6 BE79 9E60 81D9 1320<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>"Toute connaissance est une reponse a une question" G.Bachelard<o:p></o:p></pre></div>
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