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Sivasubramanian makes excellent points, and I agree with them.
<br><br>
Of course, ISOC will probably have to put more resources into web site
development and operation. But it will be worth it. The ISOC
and chapter web sites are (or can be) our most prominent "face"
towards our communities.<br><br>
Martin Burack<br>
ISOC Greater Washington chapter<br><br>
<br><br>
At 05:50 AM 12/27/2007, Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Dear Philemon,<br><br>
The system of chapter websites sharing an uniform domain, with central
storage space and bandwidth, which isn't going to cost much, would solve
a lot of problems.<br><br>
1) on my own, I might choose a domain name such as inchenisoc.co.in.for
the ISOC India Chennai Chapter website which would be lost.<br><br>
2) If I have to have
<a href="http://incheenisoc.co.in">incheenisoc.co.in</a> listed in search
engines and directories I will have to spend a fortune. I may not be
effective also.<br><br>
3) I need to hire a webdesigner and I may not have the technical
expertise or time to coordinate with him, so I may end up with a website
that is shabby, featureless, or even dangerous in terms of
vulnerabilities or even unwittingly malicious content. I may get that
site online unawares, but it wouldn't speak well of ISOC<br><br>
4) My website, despite the template suggestions from any from ISOC might
be blue in color, Australia's website woule be red in color and the
French might have a website that is green in color.. The common
identity would be lost<br><br>
5) France might have some collaborative features which I may not have.
Even if France is willing to share the expertise I may not have the
expertise to build the same features in the Chennai website.<br><br>
6) I may not be knowledgeable about where to host the website, so I might
end up hosting <a href="http://inchenisoc.co.in">inchenisoc.co.in</a>
somewhere in a malicious webserver which will would be down most of the
time, with a mail server bannned in a spam database to cause all mail
messages from <a href="http://inchenisoc.co.in">inchenisoc.co.in</a> to
bounce, which would result in a waste of time for me.<br><br>
On the contrary if there is a system of centralized hosting, storage and
subdomains, I will have a domain name as
<a href="http://www.isoc.org/indiachennai">www.isoc.org/indiachennai</a>
or <a href="http://indiachenai.isoc.org">indiachenai.isoc.org</a> which sounds pretty nice.<br><br>
This takes care of several aspects of "Corporate Identity". Several examples can be found to understand how corporate identity is built up. For example visit <a href="http://www.ibm.com">www.ibm.com</a> or hp or dell or sun or apple and navigate to find their india or australian websites which are locally managed. <br><br>
Any regional IBM website looks blue and it all looks the same. Look at a monitor with the ibm page from 20 feet away, you know that it is an IBM website. Same should be said of ISOC. This is what Corporate Identity is all about.<br><br>
Those who have existing domains that are already familiar might still use their known domains in addition to the <a href="http://isco.org">isco.org</a> subdomain.. They could set up their domain name in their domain registires to point to the website at the isoc subdomain.<br><br>
Some Design Observations: The present <a href="http://isoc.org">isoc.org</a> website looks functional, neat and well organized. But this being the website of the Society that is taking the responsibility of shaping the Internet, needs to have its website refelect the most uptodate trends.<br><br>
ISOC website does not have the Web 2.0 look ( I am using this expression just to bring up a picture of something current ) Some examples of what the ISOC Chapter website need to like are<br><br>
<a href="http://www.openmoko.com/">http://www.openmoko.com/</a><br>
<a href="http://www.genflux.de/" eudora="autourl">http://www.genflux.de/</a><br>
<a href="http://www.ebuddy.com/">http://www.ebuddy.com/</a><br>
<br>
The template has to be built in by default by the ISOC webmaster, the chapters have to just modify the template to upload local content. It should be as easy as cut and paste, copy and paste, drage and drop. <br><br>
It requires a lot of thinking as to how to get the chapter websites organized.<br><br>
Thank you<br>
Sivasubramanian Muthusamy<br>
ISOC India Chennai Chapter.<br><br>
<br><br>
<br><br>
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On 12/27/07, <b>philemon</b> <<a href="mailto:philemon@drtvnet.cg">philemon@drtvnet.cg</a>> wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font size=2>Hi </font>Muthusamy and All<br>
<br>
I think we should make a diffirence between the fact to move to a same template for each chapter web site and the internet domain name linked to such or such web site. I mean, one can leave a choice to chapters to use for example a local ccTLD such as <a href="http://www.isoc.cg">www.isoc.cg</a> -sorry for the advertising :) - or <a href="http://www.isoc.fr">www.isoc.fr</a> ...<br>
<br>
I dont no maybe bring all chapter Internet domain name into line will be better.<br>
<br>
Thanks<br>
<br>
Philemon<br>
<br>
ISOC-CG<br>
<br>
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<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>----- Original Message ----- <br>
<b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:isolatedn@gmail.com">Sivasubramanian Muthusamy</a> <br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:franck@sopac.org">Franck Martin</a> <br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href="mailto:icdri@icdri.org">Michael Burks</a> ; <a href="mailto:chapter-delegates@elists.isoc.org">Chapter Delegates</a> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, December 27, 2007 4:11 AM<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Chapter-delegates] Internet Society unveils new website design<br><br>
<br>
<pre>Dear Anne,
In this context it would be worthwhile to think of chapter websites as
<a href="http://isoc.org">isoc.org</a> subdomains such as
<a href="http://www.peru.isoc.org/" eudora="autourl">www.peru.isoc.org</a></u> or
<a href="http://www.isoc.org/peru">www.isoc.org/peru</a></u> or
may be even a new domain
<a href="http://www.isocchapters.org/peru" eudora="autourl">www.isocchapters.org/peru</a></u>
Template design, in that case could be automatically built in. The
design of the website could be one that is easy to upload / edit pages
as in a weblog.
This would be of a lot of help to all chapters.
Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
IsocIndiaChennai</pre><font face="Courier New, Courier"></font><br><br>
On 12/27/07, <b>Franck Martin</b> <<a href="mailto:franck@sopac.org">franck@sopac.org</a>> wrote: <br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Cynthia,<br><br>
It is not?<br><br>
Can you point to issues with current design?<br><br>
Thanks<br><br>
Cynthia Waddell wrote:<br>
> Dear Anne:<br>
> This would be a good time to build accessible web design into the templates. <br>
><br>
> Best regards,<br>
> Cynthia Waddell<br>
> --------------------------------------------------<br>
> Cynthia D. Waddell, JD<br>
> Executive Director and<br>
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><br>
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> <br>
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> Web Accessibility: Web Standards and<br>
> Regulatory Compliance by Apress<br>
> at <a href="http://www.icdri.org/WSR_Book.htm">www.icdri.org/WSR_Book.htm</a><br>
> See also Constructing Accessible Web Sites<br>
> <a href="http://www.icdri.org/constructing_accessible_web_site.htm">www.icdri.org/constructing_accessible_web_site.htm </a><br>
><br>
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> -----Original Message-----<br>
> From: <a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org">chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org </a><br>
> [<a href="mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org" eudora="autourl">mailto:chapter-delegates-bounces@elists.isoc.org</a>] On Behalf Of ISOC<br>
> Membership<br>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 5:30 PM <br>
> To: Jose Francisco Callo Romero<br>
> Cc: Chapter Delegates<br>
> Subject: Re: [Chapter-delegates] Internet Society unveils new website design<br>
><br>
> hi Jose,<br>
><br>
> Thanks for your comments and suggestion. A template kit for chapters <br>
> will be developed, available for use by all chapters. This will be<br>
> done as a priority and we will send an email to this list as soon as<br>
> it is available.<br>
><br>
> best wishes<br>
> Anne<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 21/12/2007, at 3:57 AM, Jose Francisco Callo Romero wrote:<br>
><br>
><br>
>> Mr Mark:<br>
>> Let highlight the effort and good taste of the new design of the<br>
>> web of ISOC. <br>
>> As for the Chapters of Latin America is well layout and easy to<br>
>> navigate.<br>
>> As you mentioned going to be very interesting connectivity and<br>
>> interactivity of each chapter.<br>
>> Let please a suggestion: It would be important to uniformize sites <br>
>> in Latin America, you can send templates so that the Web is<br>
>> standardized and uniform design and layout, just adapting the<br>
>> content to each use and need.<br>
>> Thanks and Merry Christmas and Venturoso 2008 <br>
>> From Lima, Peru.<br>
>> Fraternally<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Jose F. Callo Romero<br>
>> Web Project Manager<br>
>> Presidente- ISOC Peru<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
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