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<DIV><SPAN class=648571806-13072005></SPAN><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2>M<SPAN
class=648571806-13072005>any practical and fresh ideas appeared today in
our July Real-Time ISOC Monographic Monthly Meeting.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=648571806-13072005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN class=648571806-13072005>I want to
thank our colleagues from Mexico, specially to Mr Aaron Benitez, who today
contributed helping to sort all the ideas.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN class=648571806-13072005>To whom we owe
this executive summary.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=648571806-13072005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN class=648571806-13072005>Thanks too for
your "massive" assistence. If we take the number of chapters who voted (44) in
past election, as a gross stimator of
Chapter-Activity...</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN class=648571806-13072005>today in our
meeting we had concurrently 15 chapters represented, which is more
than a 33% of the activest chapters having voice, and growing
:-)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=648571806-13072005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN class=648571806-13072005>It's amazing
to have people from Senegal, talking to Luxemburg, California, Washington,
Indonesia, France, Spain, Tuvalu or Germany (among others) at the same
moment.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN class=648571806-13072005>Thanks to all,
for your participation. We'll repeat (as you'll probably read) this Meeting this
coming thursday in aprox 27h. </SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=648571806-13072005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN class=648571806-13072005>And in AUGUST
we won't have meeting. So we wait you this Thursday, otherwise on September the
6th (tuesday).</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN class=648571806-13072005>Have a
great holidays.</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=648571806-13072005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=648571806-13072005>
andreu</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN
class=648571806-13072005></SPAN></FONT></FONT><FONT face=Arial><FONT
size=2><SPAN class=648571806-13072005></SPAN></FONT></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT><BR><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=2>MONOGRAPHIC MONTHLY MEETING<SPAN
class=648571806-13072005> # 7 (July)</SPAN></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=648571806-13072005>====================================</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=648571806-13072005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=648571806-13072005><FONT size=4><SPAN
class=176193304-07062005>"Working Together<SPAN
class=255213518-02072005>:</SPAN> ISOC and Chapters"<SPAN
class=255213518-02072005> </SPAN></SPAN><BR> </FONT><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT
color=#000000> <SPAN class=255213518-02072005><FONT
size=2> </FONT><FONT
size=3>What has been done, what we are doing, what we plan to
do.</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT size=4><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 13.5pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><FONT
color=#000000><SPAN class=255213518-02072005><FONT
size=3>
What do you think is left to
do?</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Date: July 12, 2005<BR>Time: 19:00 UTC</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Attendees:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=648571806-13072005><FONT face=Arial
size=2>--------------------</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>1 Jim Galvin (Invited Guests)<BR>2 David McAuley
(ISOC, Reston VA)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>3 ORGANIZED & MODERATED by: Andreu Veŕ (ISOC-ES
from Palo Alto, CA)<BR>4 MINUTES BY: Aaron Benitez
(MEXICO)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>5 Joan Batet (TARRAGONA, Spain)<BR>6 Sébastien
Bachollet (France from Luxemburg) <BR>7 Peter Koch <BR>8 Mike Todd
(ISOC-LA)<BR>9 Fred Baker (<SPAN class=648571806-13072005>S</SPAN>ANTA BARBARA,
CA)<BR>10 Hans Peter Dittler (Karlsruhe, GERMANY)<BR>11 Tenanoia Simona (TUVALU,
from NY)<BR>12 Rosa Delgado (Peru, GENEVE)<BR>13 Patrick Vande Walle
(LUXEMBURG)<BR>14 Franck Martin (PIC-ISOC)<BR>15 Alex Corenthin (SENEGAL)<BR>16
Gene Gaines (ISOC-Washington)<BR>1<SPAN class=648571806-13072005>7</SPAN>
Rosaura Alastruey (BARCELONA, Spain)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2>1<SPAN class=648571806-13072005>8</SPAN>
Nelson Sanchez (ISOC, from Luxemburg)<BR></FONT></DIV></FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2></FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>OBSERVERS:<BR><SPAN
class=648571806-13072005>19</SPAN> heinzfrobisch<BR></FONT><FONT><FONT
face=Arial><FONT size=2><SPAN class=648571806-13072005>20</SPAN> Mr Sony Arianto
Kurniawan (from an indonesian IT magazine)<BR>2<SPAN
class=648571806-13072005>1</SPAN> Goutama Bachtiar member from
Indonesia.<BR>===</FONT></FONT></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Strategic Op Plan (SOP)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>After a quick round of presentations, Jim
Galvin and David McAuley started talking about the importance of the
SOP.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"We hope to enhance two things: communications and
substantive pursuit of ISOC’s mission and goals. "</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"The Chapter Delegates will have access to the
membership system being rolled out now. "</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"You can see the Strategic Op Plan at <</FONT><A
href="http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/sop3.pdf"><FONT face=Arial
size=2>http://www.isoc.org/isoc/chapters/sop3.pdf</FONT></A><FONT face=Arial
size=2>> <BR>isocdavid: Andreu and Rudi have done a very good thing for
communications with these MMM meetings and archives. <BR>franckhlmartin:
ok<BR>isocdavid: We are trying to organize regional meetings at venues of
opportunity (e.g. ICANN meetings, ISOC Board meetings, various training events)
- we </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>want to do more of this if they work out well. We
hope local chapters will take lead on this. "</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"I would like to emphasize the importance of the
strategic plan. The ISOC Board will use to guide all its future activities so it
is real important to give </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>it read. This the first time ISOC has undertaken to
have such a document"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Galvin: With that in mind, the chapter-delegates
mailing list is the best we have today to keep our chapters informed and to hear
from our chapters. How </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>well to folks feel that process works? What
functionality would you like to see in addition, or what would you like to be a
more direct part of? Note that I </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>am not asking for specific technology suggestions.
This is about principles.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>franckhlmartin: On principles it would be
interesting for ISOC to inform chapters of any action/event happening in their
constituency that ISOC promotes</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>isocdavid: We try to do that in newsletter and we
do try to announce things on the list but we will try to get better at this
Franck<BR>galvinjamesm: We do try to send notices to the chapter-delegates list.
There is room for improvement, and we're working to keep ourselves better
informed so </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>we can keep chapters better informed.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>===</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Newsletter translations</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>hero_tsai: I have an Idea for that newsletter,
can we receive it a week before its release so that we can translate it and send
the translated version back </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>for publication along with the original
?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>The main difficulties we face in communications
process is the translation for the members </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nelson_sanchez_1: we would like to work with the
chapters to get more translations in for the newsletter but it may have to be
after the first release in </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>English.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>txusquet: each month (or periodically in each
language).</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>txusquet: For instance for Spanish, we have one
person</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>txusquet: But we need some people who coordinate
this </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>isocdavid: But at bottom this is an offer to
translate and that is very good - can we get it translated by you on our release
and then release the </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>translation - this will expand the audience however
it is done</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>acorenthin: At least can we chose only 3 or 4 main
langages</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>txusquet: devoted in our chapter
(ISOC-es)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>patrick_vandewalle: Many members of my chapters
tell me they throw the newletters away as they cannot understand
them</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>nelson_sanchez_1: unless people can contribute
sections already in local languages.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>txusquet: who diggest monthly all the contents of
the</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>txusquet: Chapter-Delegates List in
spanish.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>franckhlmartin: I agree for translation but do not
want to delay anything either...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>txusquet: It would be really easy for us to
distribute</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>fredbakersba: Just a thought. Would a better
approach e or the chaper to translate the newsletter and put it on its own web
site? That would ensure that </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>local needs are met and reduce the "but you didn't
do mine" frcition.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>"would choose, but French and Spanish come to mind.
Unofficial translations could exist in almost any language, and we would really
look to the Chapters to </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>support us in creating such
translations."</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>fredbakersba: Is the "of the world" discussion
regarding mandated language support for ISOC HQ? If so, please note that
societies like Wycliffe and such </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>have been trying to translate the Bible into all
the languages of the world for the past couple of centuries, and have funded
zillions of dollars worth of </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>linguistic research to do it, including inventing
written languages for thousands of tribal languages. Nobody is saying that such
a goal is not worthy for </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>ISOC newsletters, but it may be a trifle
impractical.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>rosadelgado1294: Gene: I agree... </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>fredbakersba: Practically speaking, we can hit the
languages of our members, by having some members translate for others. I thought
that this was what we </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>were agreeing to...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hero_tsai: fred is right</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>isocdavid: I thought so too - </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>galvinjamesm: Gene: I agree. I suggested we would
certainly give credit to whoever does the translation. We used to include the
name and affiliation years </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>ago when the newsletter was first translated by
volunteers. I would certainly continue to do so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>gene_gaines: Agree Fred.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>acorenthin: I support Gene proposal</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>====</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>Strengthening Chapters partnership within a
region</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>galvinjamesm: We have one "regional" group, the
Francophones. I think it would be great to have other Chapters organize around
their preferred language.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>isocdavid: It would also likely help foster
regional meetings of some great value</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>acorenthin: SOP says 6.3 "Chapters are expected to
serve the interests of their specific geographic or non-geographic segment of
the global Internet </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>community </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>galvinjamesm: That is correct.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hero_tsai: there is only one
non-geographic</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>gene_gaines: We might have an "Anglophone" group
... that a poor joke .. but a U.S. chapter group not a bad idea</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>hero_tsai: Disability Chapter, with Michael Burks
and Cynthia Wadell</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>sbacholl: OFF topic: there are 3 people with mehere
in Luxembourg that are unable to be connect and to participate</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>it is important to highlight this issue within a
"regional" coordination of existing chapters </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>rosadelgado1294: Somebody mentioned in this forum
about every chapter is different. Today chapters are defined geographically and
by language but we should </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>also look at the speciality as some are more
policy, technically, development (dev countries) oriented.. We have the French
and Italian chapter having every </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>year a conference on domain names/Internet
governance. Perhaps we should also put together chapters by
orientation/speciality/value </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>acorenthin: Rosa .. I agree </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>isocdavid: I believe Andreu has another MMM on same
subject this Thursday at 10:00 GMT. Please also look at the brief questions we
sent to the chapters </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>delegates on July 5th - the more replies we get the
better informed the board will be. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>====</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Next MMM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I believe Andreu has planned another MMM on same
subject this Thursday at 10:00 GMT. Please also look at the brief questions we
sent to the chapters </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>delegates on July 5th - the more replies we get the
better informed the board will be. <BR>txusquet: Yes<BR>txusquet: we'll have a
second edition of this Meeting<BR>txusquet: in two days.<BR>txusquet: But I
thing and due to today's the high attendance<BR>hero_tsai: before this meeting
is over, I have a little off topic information and request<BR>Yahoo! Messenger:
galvinjamesm has left the conference.<BR>txusquet: We could prolongue our
discussion for 30 minutes (as an exception)<BR>txusquet: to the 1hour
policy.<BR>isocdavid: That is fine with me<BR>txusquet: But allowing to anybody
who has to leave <BR>miketodd2002: ok</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>===</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Some technical issues regarding the
meeting</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>My hope is that regional meetings will become
useful, especially if Alex's comment regasrding regional grouping takes hold as
is now underway<BR>sbacholl: any limitation of the nuber of
participants?<BR>txusquet: No<BR>txusquet: 3 people experimented
trouble<BR>franckhlmartin: in the same room, mind you<BR>txusquet: but I don't
think is number of participants<BR>Yahoo! Messenger: galvinjamesm has joined the
conference.<BR>txusquet: cause before we have been<BR>txusquet: chatting with
more than 20 attendees<BR>txusquet: and the problems occurred
later<BR>galvinjamesm: Sorry folks!! My Yahoo Messenger "broke" and it took a
while to get back online.<BR>isocdavid: Welcome back Jim<BR>patrick_vandewalle:
Why can't we upgrade to Jabber if we have just text chat ?<BR>txusquet: Well
some of them have video <BR>txusquet: But Jabber clients as GAIM<BR>txusquet:
allow you to join <BR>txusquet: with any Yahoo ID<BR>galvinjamesm: Actually, I'm
using my jabber client now to get into Yahoo! <BR>txusquet: Great !<BR>txusquet:
So freedom of Clients...<BR>franckhlmartin: yes jabber is cool protocol defined
by IETf btw<BR>Why can't we upgrade to Jabber if we have just text chat
?<BR>txusquet: Well some of them have video <BR>txusquet: But Jabber clients as
GAIM<BR>txusquet: allow you to join <BR>txusquet: with any Yahoo
ID<BR>galvinjamesm: Actually, I'm using my jabber client now to get into Yahoo!
<BR>txusquet: Great !<BR>txusquet: So freedom of Clients...<BR>franckhlmartin:
yes jabber is cool protocol defined by IETf btw<BR>rosadelgado1294: i agree with
jabber too is friendly and .. a ...<BR>heinzfrobisch: yes, cool interoperable
non proprietary unencumbered technology!<BR>txusquet: no problem<BR>txusquet:
Any of you has <BR>txusquet: tested with more than 10 people at the same time
?<BR>patrick_vandewalle: We do it at BoT meeting with no prob<BR>fredbakersba:
Jabber is routinely used in IETF working groups to enable 100+ participants plus
remote participants to talk with each other druring a meeting </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>and also feed into minutes.<BR>franckhlmartin:
heinz will answer you<BR>txusquet: Perfect<BR>franckhlmartin: jabber is used by
IETF in its meetings...</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>===</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>About WGIG WSIS</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>gene_gaines: A quick question.<BR>txusquet: go
ahead<BR>gene_gaines: I have sent several very basic, very introductory sets of
links or text from publications about such important tnings as WGIG WSIS. Is
that </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>useful?<BR>franckhlmartin: My early point is to get
the local chapter involved in any ISOC action done in the chapter
area<BR>isocdavid: Gene, I find it useful - Franck - duly noted , thank
you<BR>rosadelgado1294: My early point I mentioned ..about chapter's value:
Today chapters are defined geographically and by language but we should also
look at </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>the speciality as some are more policy,
technically, development (dev countries) oriented.. We have the French and
Italian chapter having every year a </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>conference on domain names/Internet governance.
Perhaps we should also put together chapters by orientation/speciality/value
<BR>galvinjamesm: I think they were great pointers, Gene.<BR>franckhlmartin: We
have a meeting every year too...<BR>isocdavid: OK Rosa - and Franck's meeting is
coming up in August<BR>franckhlmartin: We are looking at better collaboration
with other Internet organisation, and ISOC help in that could be
appreciated...<BR>franckhlmartin: We would like some relations with APNIC
ICANN/RALO APTLD ....<BR>gene_gaines: Franck Martin made some comments at an
INET meeting in DC that I cannot forget -- WHAT IS THE VALUE PROPOSITION? and
this is something we need </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to keep in mind when thinking about chapters,
because chapters are local members.<BR>We are looking at better collaboration
with other Internet organisation, and ISOC help in that could be
appreciated...<BR>franckhlmartin: We would like some relations with APNIC
ICANN/RALO APTLD ....<BR>gene_gaines: Franck Martin made some comments at an
INET meeting in DC that I cannot forget -- WHAT IS THE VALUE PROPOSITION? and
this is something we need </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>to keep in mind when thinking about chapters,
because chapters are local members.<BR>isocdavid: I think the chapter
introductions idea is an intersting one<BR>sbacholl: And we were very happy to
have members from isoc Senegel, Mali, Luxembourg, UK, Belgium Wallonie and
pacific Islands at hour EGENI meeting </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>(annual) the 1st of july some days
ago<BR>fredbakersba: James Galvin says that his Yahoo has gone into the drink.
He sends his regreys...<BR>franckhlmartin: a very nice meeting,
EGENI<BR>gene_gaines: I shut up now. Except to APPLAUD the good ISOC Hq. and
Board people for excellent progress.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><BR><FONT face=Arial size=2>After 1h 30 min of conducted debate we close
the 7th MMM.<BR>And we announce the Second Edition of this "get together" to
facilitate ISOC chapters and members to share fresh ideas on how to strenghten
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