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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Dear Stefano,</span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I tend to concur with your views on the
WGIG process and the related suggestion on creating a new body while reforming
ICANN. </span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Just a few bias to this though; and this
is about a reformed GOC; how would this be done and which relationship should
such a new body entertain with the USG? is it going to be linked with the UN
system? </span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>On the new body to be created, which
should act as a forum for discussion, coordination and facilitation, I perceive
a key role for ISOC alongside with the ICANN’s </span></font><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>ALAC</span></font><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>, WIPO, WTO, ITU..etc.
Now, will this have anything to do with the so called Global Alliance on ICT
which is poised to replace the current UN ICT taskforce? And how about the
voices those are now suggesting that the current WIGIG be transformed into such
a new body?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=FR
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Best regards</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=FR
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=FR
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Pierre Dandjinou</span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span lang=FR
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Isoc Benin</span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'> </span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----Original Message-----<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Stefano Trumpy
[mailto:stefano.trumpy@iit.cnr.it] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Thursday, June
09, 2005</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>11:25 AM</span></font><font
size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
chapter-delegates@lists.isoc.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [chapter-delegates]
WGIG summary of replies to the questionnaire</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>[I posted this message to memberpubpol@elists.isoc.org
and someone<br>
suggested I should repost it here]<br>
<br>
Dear all,<br>
<br>
I am trying to launch a debate here regarding the WGIG process. The goal is<br>
to have a common position of the ISOC chapters and to escalate it to ISOC<br>
and WGIG. My first thoughts after reading the WGIG summary:<br>
<br>
The first question was if there a need for an additional body. Actually,<br>
there might be a need for two bodies, one new and a reformed existing<br>
one. Internet Governance is a vast domain, ranging from IP address<br>
allocation issues to interconnection tariffs, freedom of expression,<br>
intellectual property issues, cybercrime... Only a small part of the<br>
above is currently managed by ICANN.<br>
<br>
One of these bodies should address the oversight function by taking over<br>
the role of the DoC in relation with ICANN, and especially the control<br>
on the root zone. The majority of the TLDs in the root zone file are<br>
*country* codes, thus this is a matter of national sovereignty, which<br>
cannot be delegated neither to specific government nor to the private<br>
sector, the latter lacking any legitimacy under international law.<br>
<br>
My opinion is that a reformed GAC (let's call it GOC, with an "o" for<br>
oversight) could address that part. Root server operations being 90%<br>
technical, the workload on the GOC would be rather limited. But since it<br>
would be multilateral, it would de facto be less challengeable.<br>
<br>
I would like to stress the fact that, under such a model, ICANN would be<br>
left largely untouched, which should reassure the many within ISOC who<br>
preach the "if it ain't broken don't fix it" attitude. Having cut its<br>
link with the DoC would actually give extra legitimacy to the ICANN<br>
process, as it will not appear to be flawed from the start.<br>
<br>
The other body would address the other parts of IG in terms of<br>
discussion, coordination and facilitation. This body should be<br>
lightweight and rely on others existing institutions or fora to take the<br>
lead when discussing specific issues (WIPO on IP issues, IETF on<br>
standards issues, etc).<br>
<br>
The funding of this group should be balanced between the public and the<br>
private sector. It needs to work for the common good and should be in a<br>
financial position that prevents it to be captured by one or another<br>
interest group.<br>
<br>
Regs,<br>
<br>
Patrick Vande Walle</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Here you find my personal considerations on WGIG questionnire;
I feel very interested also considering my function as GAC representative
for Italy and GAC vice-chair. Thanks to Patrik for his very concrete thougths.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><b><font size=5 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black;font-weight:
bold'>The WGIG<x-tab> </x-tab>Questionnaire:</span></font></b></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black'> <br>
The questionnaire is aiming at receiving responses that will be considered if
politically and financially realistic.<br>
<br>
There are four sets of questions:<br>
<br>
1. Forum Functions<br>
2. Oversight function<br>
3. Functioning/coordination of existing
institutions<br>
4 . Functioning/coordination at the national
level</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=5 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black'>The first set
of questions logically should be considered as the last one since it envisages
the possibility of setting up a sort of global forum to be on top of
everything. The set that is specifically referring to ICANN, and to the GAC in
particular, is the second one.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=5 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black'>The first
question is:<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> "What
functions do you envisage should be subject to oversight and over what areas of
activity?"</span></i></b></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=5 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black'>The question
is very general.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=5 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black'>The second
question:<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> "Should
the ICANN/GAC be transformed and take on some oversight functions ?"<br>
</span></i></b>This clearly demonstrates that the WGIG, when talking of
oversight functions, has no other concrete ideas than referring to DNS and
ICANN.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=5 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black'>What is there
behind this question? I interpret that the WGIG intends to receive proposals
regarding the situation of ICANN/GAC after the expiration of the present MoU
between ICANN and the Department of Commerce of US government.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=5 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black'>The substance
of the question is: "what after the expiration of the present MoU?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=5 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black'>- should a
governmental body assume at least part of the present oversight function on
ICANN ?</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=5 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black'>- if the
answer is yes, could the GAC, transformed in a GAC+ assume this role ? Patrik
suggests that the answer is yes and that the GAC should be transformed in GOC.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=5 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black'>- An element
to discuss with ICANN is the type of oversight functions that could be retained
by reference to those that are presently exercised by US-DoC.</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=5 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black'>The third
question is:<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'>
"Should the GAC be replaced by another body and what functions should such
a body take on?"</span></i></b></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=5 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black'>The substance
of this question is "What else if you do not think that the GAC is not
appropriate and to do what?" The GAC is preparing an idea/proposal how to
respond to the previous question; than this question could not deserve an
answer apart from a generic one like this: "if we need a form of
governmental oversight on ICANN, why not adjust the present role/functions of
GAC that proved to be an effective presence in the ICANN decision making
structure?"</span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=5 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black'>The fourth
question is:<b><i><span style='font-weight:bold;font-style:italic'> "Should
any post-2006 governmental oversight be exercised within the UN framework
?"</span></i></b></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=5 color=black
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black'>This question
is clearly referred to ICANN. The point is if it is envisaged to transport the
oversight function presently exercised by the DoC to a body within the UN. Our position,
is that the kind of oversight on the Internet governance that we could see
positively is not connected to ICANN but rather to the intercommunication among
the bodies that are involved in different aspects of the Internet governance;
this oversight function could be exercised by a committee constituted by the
Secretary General of UN and not committed to any existing UN agency. The only
oversight on ICANN by this committee could be to monitor that ICANN is
conducted in a way to respect it's mandate to be multi-stakeholders, bottom up,
transparent, etc. and to promote links with other organizations when needed.</span></font></p>
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The other sets of questions are instructive in order to verify the kind of
inputs WGIG is looking for.<br>
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If we look at the third set of questions about<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>
coordination of existing institutions</span></b>, we can only observe that a
better coordination is always possible, provided that the organizations
involved really want to collaborate. About the possibility to give to an
existing institution the role of leading agency for coordination, I think that
this is an unpractical and not desirable solution.<br>
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The forth set of questions is touching a well known problem within ICANN; the
necessity of a form of<b><span style='font-weight:bold'> conciliation of
national decision making</span></b> procedures with the necessary international
Internet governance agreements.</span></font></p>
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face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:18.0pt;color:black'>The first set
of questions is about the possible creation of<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>
a forum that can discuss a broad spectrum of Internet governance issues</span></b>.
Our position is that this body could be useful provided that is only of a
consultative nature, has no control or supervising functions, is authoritative
and supported by governments (connection to the comments on the question 2.4).</span></font></p>
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Trumpy</span></font></p>
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Ing. Stefano TRUMPY<br>
CNR - Istituto di Informatica e Telematica<br>
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E-mail: stefano.trumpy@iit.cnr.it</span></font></p>
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